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Defensive Line

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by FKAGobucks877, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    I haven't been on here in a while, but I just skimmed through the threads and didn't see one like this. If there is one, mod's, feel free to delete/merge this. Our D line looked absolutely frickin horrible, especially in the second half. Regardless of all our optimism in the spring and pre-season, I think this defense is in for one hell of a surprise if they don't improve radically, within the next week or two. NC State features McClendon, and we all know what Wisky can do with their TB...so my point is, what gives? Is the front four that bad? Or was this simply a "bad game"? For those front guys to consistently have their asses handed to them by Marshall, well, I'm worried. Very worried.
     
  2. Dariuswagner

    Dariuswagner Banned

    I have to agree. Additionally, I thought our entire defense looked slow. I hope it was just a week of tired legs and they'll get some spring back in their step this weekend.
     
  3. Buckeye1

    Buckeye1 Senior

    I thought our defense was in for a long day when we scored so quickly in the fitsr quarter and that Marshall had a very good drive; Not only their defense got a long break, but our defensive unit was on the field a long time. The Marshall offense line did a much better job then we gave them credit for. Marshall coaching did a great job, and out defensive line were out played. They are young and will bounce back.
     
  4. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Bucks were unprepared for zone blocking from Marshall. Couple that with a good cutback runner and athletes that are overpursuring on D = Rushing Yards. The Bucks will get that figured out ... I hope.

    Really, I think all that lateral pursuit the Bucks were forced into the first half (lots of bubble screens, etc.) became a mindset and we had people overrunning plays the rest of the game.
     
  5. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    I thought the same, 3yards, but in retrospect I'm not so sure. I would need to watch the game again, but from my spot in C deck, it looked to me, especially in the second half, that the D linemen were getting shoved off the line and blocked one-on-one by the O lineman. That isn't so bad, except that it was repeatedly happening, which was freeing up the tight end, fullback, or a pulling lineman to challenge the LB's. Maybe I'm expecting too much out of this young line, but if Marshall's O linemen can block our D linemen (successfully) one-on-one, every single time, we could be in for a long year.
     
  6. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    You said it FKA ... young line. I also don't remember long sustained drives from our O that gave the D much of a breather.

    People forget that our young guys have faced 2 teams that have been loaded with seniors and returning starters. Experience counts for something ... that's what we're getting right now. We face a thrid team loaded with seniors and returning starters this week. Hopefully the Buckeyes can keep learning their lessons while winning games. :wink2:
     
  7. KillerNut

    KillerNut Banned

    Dead on, I was trying to explain this on another thread, but that is a much description of what happened.

    The other thing I saw was our pad levels were too high, mostly on the DL (especially Fraiser), but also our LBs had some similar issues. I don't know if this is because they were tired (running down the bubble screens), or what but if that is the case we got to play more people, or run more sprints.
     
  8. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    Funny thing is, at the game , I remarked to the guy next to me how fat the Marshall lineman were. I also said they'll peter out by the 2nd half and we should be able to stop the rush and get better pressure on the qb.

    It never happened. Either I underestimated the Marshall line or their coaches did a better job of adjusting than ours.

    I've gotta give the D credit for coming up big at tthe end with a 3 and out and Marshall losing 2 yards total in the 3 plays.
     
  9. the_shoe

    the_shoe standing room only

    I've never been a fan of the "bend but don't break" defence, eventually if you bend enough your gonna break! I wish we would attack the offence more to cause confusion, I don't think this defence is as aggressive as the D's of the past!
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2004
  10. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    They're (mostly) young and they're all talented. They'll get it together. A lot of what we've come to appreciate as usual is actually special and comes from game heat. The defense will get better and they should get more support from the offense than the last couple of year's defenses.
     
  11. the_shoe

    the_shoe standing room only

    Your right Rugby about the youth of the defence, thats also why I think their not as aggressive as they used to be!!!
     
  12. BuckeyeTillIDie

    BuckeyeTillIDie The North Remembers

    Man, after watching the Redskins yesterday, I wish the Buckeyes could call some of those defensive plays! Guys were flying around and blitzing from everywhere, it was quite impressive play calling from Greg Williams.
     
  13. EPBucks

    EPBucks Newbie

    I also felt that the defense was over pursuing on their running plays but this can and most likely will be fixed. I think that the Marshall game will help us for the NCST game because they play similar types of offenses. The one thing I wish our defense would do is play our DB's closer to the oppositions WR's. I think if we would do this it would take away teams quick passing game against us. I also feel that doing this doesn't put us at any additional risk because our DB's are so athletic and can run with anybodies WR’s.<O:p</O:p
     
  14. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member

    That big Drive where they just ran it down out throats wasn't that big of a deal... they were literally blocking with 8 guys against the 4-3.. They were trying to bait us into putting both safeties in the box... Snyder wasn't going for it until they got in the red zone.
     
  15. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Several factors that I think contributed to the peformance of our D:

    Most significantly we ran four offensive plays in the first 9:30. That means our defense was on the field an awful long time during the hottest part of that game. We are deep, but I am not sure we ever recovered from that.

    Snyder was putting emphasis on creating turnovers. Somebdoy above commented on the pads being high. If we were looking for opportunities to strip the ball that is always a mistake.

    We did not adjust to their offense as quickly as I am accustomed to seeing us adjust. However, Marshall has been preparing for this game since it was put on the schedule. They had a masterful game plan early and had some other things to go to late with an incredibly motivated team playing the fourth quarter against a tired D.

    All that said - I was disappointed, but not as much with the DL as the LBs who did not look anything close to the best in the country.
     

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