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Discussion about an Early Signing Period

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Early Signing period?

it appears the ACC is going to push for an early signing period

The league also gave commissioner John Swofford authority to push for an early signing day for football. Coaches hope Swofford can get a December signing date passed at the Conference Commissioners Association meeting next month in Colorado Springs, Colo.
Football is currently the only NCAA sport without an early signing day.
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This proposal needs to have a clause in the early signing period that allows the player to get out of the early LOI should a coach get fired (coaches are often fired in late december/January). Without that clause this will cause way more problems than it would solve
 
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January 4, 2010
Prospects chime in on early signing period
Adam Gorney

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According to a USA Today report in January 2008, in a survey discussed at the American Football Coaches Association convention, 60 percent of "major college coaching staffs" supported a second signing period with overwhelming support for mid-December.

Rivals.com recruiting analyst Barry Every isn't surprised. An early period would allow coaching staffs to lock in players that are sure they've made the right decision and allow them to focus on uncommitted prospects.

The busiest and hardest weekends for college coaching staffs, Every said, are those when a bunch of official visitors come for a big game.

"It makes it easier for coaching staffs to plan," Every said. "They don't have to worry about last-second changes in December or even worse than that some of these changes in January (leave them) scrambling to find another guy. These would be guys they know they have, they could count on them that they're going to be there whether they graduate early or get there in the summer."

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Possibility for early signing period in football appears real

College football could be moving to a change in the recruiting game by offering an early signing period. Sensing momentum and a possible need to change the standard procedures, the Conference Commissioners Association will review the possible plans to add an early signing period in football based off the model used for basketball at a meeting later this year.

“I think everyone wants an early signing period,” NCAA associate director of operations Susan Peal said this week,according to ESPN.com. “It’s just trying to nail down what’s the appropriate date for that.”

Peal said the topic has been discussed before by the commissioners, but the time to revisit the idea has become more necessary now due to the NCAA altering recruiting regulations in recent years. The momentum for discussing an early signing period may be there, but not every coach will be in favor of it. Adding the early signing period means adjusting the recruiting calendar, and possibly distracting from other items of business during the football season.

There is no doubt the early signing period would have some benefits for the game. Players would be able to commit to a program and avoid the headaches of months of recruiting pressure and sales pitches while at the same time showing their commitment to a program. In return, those players would feel security knowing those programs are truly committed to them. Coaches could then spend more time working on recruiting other players waiting until National Signing Day to sign, rather than waste time on a player that has been on board since the summer or previous spring. It would seem to be a win-win scenario for players and programs, at least in theory.

Not every prospect would sign early of course. National Signing Day would still remain a significant day on the college football recruiting calendar, and some players will still use the day to hold press conferences and bask in the national spotlight. Hey, that’s their choice. For those who would choose to avoid that hoopla and just focus on other things, an early signing period would be a welcome addition.

There will be plenty of details to iron out before this become a reality. This topic is expected to be on the agenda for a June meeting of the Conference Commissioners Association. Do you like the idea of an early signing period for football? Why or why not?

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...caa-considering-early-signing-period-football
 
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It would be nice to have an early signing period before the season starts. Maybe the weekend in August before the high school season starts? That would give the opportunity to have peace of mind for the prospects that have committed and want to be left alone.
 
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David Shaw against early signing day

If the NCAA moves forward with an early signing period in college football, it will be staunchly opposed by Stanford coach David Shaw.

"I might be alone in this, I think it's terrible," Shaw said following the Cardinal's spring practice Saturday. "I think it's terrible. The reason [for an early signing period], in my opinion, is coaches don't like when kids commit and switch late."

Susan Peal, NCAA associate director of operations, said earlier this week that the continued acceleration of recruiting has led the Conference Commissioners Association to consider an earlier date to supplement the long-existing date in February, similar to the structure for basketball and other sports.

Shaw, though, isn't convinced such a change will prevent recruits from switching commitments.

"What's going to happen is, if a kid wants to change his mind late after the early signing period, he's going to appeal and that appeal is going to go through because the committees that decide those appeals, they always give in towards the student-athlete," Shaw said.

"So you have a kid that might be 16 going on 17 that commits and then really has a chance to think about it and changes his mind and we're going to try and hold him to it.

"On top of that -- and I'll be honest here, which is rare for a football coach in a setting like this -- but we have a lot of kids that don't know if they're going to get into school until after that early signing day," Shaw said. "So we're going to punish the academic schools just because coaches don't want a kid to switch their commitment?

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-football...david-shaw-strongly-opposed-early-signing-day
 
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David Shaw against early signing day

If the NCAA moves forward with an early signing period in college football, it will be staunchly opposed by Stanford coach David Shaw.

"I might be alone in this, I think it's terrible," Shaw said following the Cardinal's spring practice Saturday. "I think it's terrible. The reason [for an early signing period], in my opinion, is coaches don't like when kids commit and switch late."

Susan Peal, NCAA associate director of operations, said earlier this week that the continued acceleration of recruiting has led the Conference Commissioners Association to consider an earlier date to supplement the long-existing date in February, similar to the structure for basketball and other sports.

Shaw, though, isn't convinced such a change will prevent recruits from switching commitments.

"What's going to happen is, if a kid wants to change his mind late after the early signing period, he's going to appeal and that appeal is going to go through because the committees that decide those appeals, they always give in towards the student-athlete," Shaw said.

"So you have a kid that might be 16 going on 17 that commits and then really has a chance to think about it and changes his mind and we're going to try and hold him to it.

"On top of that -- and I'll be honest here, which is rare for a football coach in a setting like this -- but we have a lot of kids that don't know if they're going to get into school until after that early signing day," Shaw said. "So we're going to punish the academic schools just because coaches don't want a kid to switch their commitment?

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-football...david-shaw-strongly-opposed-early-signing-day
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yeah yeah yeah we know all about Stanford and their great academic programs so give it a rest David Shaw
 
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That he did. I don't think it's fair for schools with actual academic standards for student-athletes to be forced into a different recruiting calendar.

Also, I don't see the benefit to players with the new aid agreement rule that's in place. Players can already lock in their spot early, but without being bound to their choice. With that opportunity already in place, an early signing period only helps schools and can only hurt recruits. Verbally committed recruits are already in a bad enough position when there's a November or January coaching change. If somebody signs in an early period they would be taking a huge risk with as much turnover there is in college football after the regular season and after the bowls.
 
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Signing period options on table

For the first time since the Conference Commissioners Association formed a committee in June to look into whether an early signing period for college football would be a good thing, we have an idea of when that period might be.

On Tuesday at the American Football Coaches Association convention in Louisville, Susan Peal, NCAA associate director of operations who serves as a liaison between the collegiate governing body and the commissioners, revealed that the committee is leaning toward recommending a mid-December signing period. Peal said that window would likely coincide with the midyear junior college transfer signing date that occurs in the third week of December.

"Based on all of the feedback -- and there are all kinds of dates out there of what people want -- the most favorable option the committee has seen seems to be for an early signing day in December, something that's in line with the midyear junior college transfer signing date," Peal said.

"I'm not saying that's the only option out there, but it is the most favorable. The reason I'm saying that period is the most favorable is that coaches like their recruiting calendar. They like all the work that has been done so far by every subcommittee to get the recruiting calendar to where it is today, and they don't want to mess with that. A December date would have the most minimal impact to that recruiting calendar, so that's why that has been the one date that has come out."

Entire article: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/r...ecember-early-signing-period-college-football
 
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Not a fan whatsoever. So signing day will be during bowl prep? Talk about taking away from the game to have kids sign a piece of paper 2 months earlier.

Leave it to the ncaa to try to fix something that isn't broken. When you have a good team, how do you know in December who's potentially leaving early?
 
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Urban Meyer is against recruits having an early Signing Day. Here's how it would hurt him

During his Monday press conference, Ohio State coach Urban Meyer shared his thoughts on a potential early signing period.



Like seemingly all Big Ten coaches, Meyer is against an early signing period. The obvious reason is that it is financially and logistically tougher for players from the most talented regions (think Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California) of the country to visit Big Ten schools before official visits (paid for by the school) can be taken (typically during the latter portion of their senior seasons). Visits are extremely important and it’s rare for players to sign with schools they’ve not visited at least once.

Meyer is absolutely correct that recruits should be able to decommit as much as they want to, be able to change their minds as 17-year-olds are wont to do, and that some of the push for an early signing period is driven by lazy coaches.

But Meyer’s opposition struck me in a bit of a different way. The common refrain from Big Ten coaches is that if an early signing period is to happen, then the timetable that allows official visits must also be pushed up so that athletes can see the schools before deciding.


But Meyer actually seems personally opposed to this, too. That struck me as interesting. Meyer raised the point that some athletes would be taking their official visits when they are still 16, or well before they have put on the 20 pounds some do between the ages of 16 and 18. He also raised the issue of some kids taking official visits early before they have an ACT or SAT score, which is not allowed by some schools.

Why is Meyer opposed to the early signing period even if the official visit timetable concerns most Big Ten coaches have are assuaged?

Entire article: http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...ly-signing-period-urban-meyer-flip-ohio-state
 
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HOW ADDING EARLY SIGNING PERIODS WOULD IMPACT OHIO STATE'S RECRUITING EFFORTS

The NCAA Division I Council submitted a proposal last Wednesday that would introduce two early signing periods to college football.

If approved by the NCAA Board of Directors and the Collegiate Commissioners Association in April, the proposal would significantly alter the landscape of college football recruiting by establishing 72-hour periods in June and December during which a prospect can sign a National Letter of Intent.

The proposal is the result of a months-long study by the Division I Football Oversight Committee, which is chaired by Big XII Commissioner Bob Bowlsby.

“The working group did a deep dive on recruiting from beginning to end, and I think what we came up with as a proposal is both student-athlete-friendly and coach- and staff-friendly,” Bowlsby said. “We hit a sweet spot.”

Under the current rules, high school recruits can only sign a letter of intent in February, though they can enroll in December by graduating early and signing a financial aid agreement. Prospects can also only take official visits — which are paid for by the schools — during their senior year.

Not every family can afford to make the trip on their own dime, which means the recruiting calendar would have to be adjusted to allow for recruits to visit even earlier.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...s-would-impact-ohio-states-recruiting-efforts
 
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