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Division I Graduation Rates

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by wadc45, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Dallas News

    2/23/05

    CollegeFootballTalk.com

     
  2. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Now I understand why the SEC hangs on to Vanderbilt - that is sad.

    As for OSU this is Cooper data and does not at all reflect where JT is taking the program. So while it may be a bit disappointing the solution is already in place.
     
  3. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    wad -- good to see tOSU (which is identified by its initials and has the word "State" albeit in the middle of its name) showing graduation rate improvement -- yet again. Plus the Big 10 overall looks like they are making every effort to be a true academic / athletics conference. It is important that the schools do right by these young men.

    As for Tommy Tortellini he of your linked collegefootball talk:

    He can go piss up a rope.
     
  4. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    While I get mad at the statement too, only Iowa was an exception to this rule (I may have missed a few others). OkState too, but they wre virtually identical to OU in their graduation rate. Whereas Kansas, Florida, Michigan, Washington, Michigan (not by much), and others were ahead of their state counterparts. But it still is a rather ridiculous argument as not that much separates schools that are separated by 10-20 spots.
     
  5. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

    Unless I miscounted there are nine Big Ten schools in the top thirty.
     
  6. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Proof that we own all conferences in academics

    <table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Big10</td><td align="center"> </td><td>ACC</td><td align="center"> </td><td>Pac10</td><td align="center"> </td><td>SEC</td><td align="center"> </td><td>Big12</td><td align="center"> </td></tr><tr><td>NW</td><td align="center">4</td><td>Duke</td><td align="center">1</td><td>Stanford</td><td align="center">3</td><td>Vandy</td><td align="center">11</td><td>Baylor</td><td align="center">10</td></tr><tr><td>PSU</td><td align="center">6</td><td>Virginia</td><td align="center">6</td><td>Washington</td><td align="center">27</td><td>Miss St</td><td align="center">36</td><td>Kansas</td><td align="center">46</td></tr><tr><td>PU</td><td align="center">9</td><td>Wake Forest</td><td align="center">14</td><td>Arizona</td><td align="center">36</td><td>UF</td><td align="center">46</td><td>KSU</td><td align="center">56</td></tr><tr><td>UM</td><td align="center">14</td><td>NC</td><td align="center">19</td><td>California</td><td align="center">42</td><td>LSU</td><td align="center">46</td><td>OkState</td><td align="center">60</td></tr><tr><td>ILL</td><td align="center">17</td><td>MD</td><td align="center">30</td><td>USC</td><td align="center">42</td><td>SC</td><td align="center">65</td><td>TAM</td><td align="center">60</td></tr><tr><td>MSU</td><td align="center">19</td><td>GT</td><td align="center">33</td><td>Oregon</td><td align="center">46</td><td>Tenn</td><td align="center">73</td><td>Missouri</td><td align="center">65</td></tr><tr><td>Iowa</td><td align="center">23</td><td>VT</td><td align="center">36</td><td>Oregon St</td><td align="center">53</td><td>Auburn</td><td align="center">77</td><td>Nebraska</td><td align="center">65</td></tr><tr><td>Wisc</td><td align="center">27</td><td>Clemson</td><td align="center">53</td><td>ASU</td><td align="center">65</td><td>Alabama</td><td align="center">85</td><td>Iowa St</td><td align="center">77</td></tr><tr><td>OSU</td><td align="center">30</td><td>FSU</td><td align="center">56</td><td>WSU</td><td align="center">65</td><td>Miss.</td><td align="center">85</td><td>TxTech</td><td align="center">77</td></tr><tr><td>IU</td><td align="center">42</td><td>Miami</td><td align="center">60</td><td>UCLA</td><td align="center">97</td><td>UGA</td><td align="center">92</td><td>OU</td><td align="center">81</td></tr><tr><td>Minn</td><td align="center">62</td><td>NCState</td><td align="center">97</td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td>UK</td><td align="center">92</td><td>Texas</td><td align="center">89</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td>Ark</td><td align="center">95</td><td>Colorado</td><td align="center">100</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td><td> </td><td align="center"> </td></tr><tr><td> </td><td align="center">23.0000</td><td> </td><td align="center">36.8181</td><td> </td><td align="center">47.3000</td><td> </td><td align="center">66.9167</td><td> </td><td align="center">65.5000</td></tr></tbody></table>
     
  7. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    A more compelling argument might be "if the college you went to is named after a town or city."
     
  8. MiamiJoe

    MiamiJoe Brian is Lyin

    Biggest problem with stats

    Is that schools with early draft entries are lower rated when in reality the financial security being a top draft pick is more than the average graduate. Miami and OSU were hurt by this in recent years.
     
  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    The best part about this statistic is that the difference between these statistics and the ones a few years from now when Tressel's influence shows up in the stats... it's gonna be night and day difference... and tOSU's not too bad right now.
     
  10. Rock OSU

    Rock OSU Buck the System

    Don't forget, too, that tOSU is the largest school in the country. They usually battle it out in that distinction with Texas every year. Yet tOSU is way ahead of them in academics. When you're putting 50,000+ through at a 60+% rate, that's sure a lot of folks!!
     
  11. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    If your school is named USC, LSU, Miami, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Texas, Oklahoma or Florida State, you're behind Ohio State under Cooper, meaning you're falling further behind every day.
     
  12. VprHis

    VprHis Get off my lawn, you hooligans!

    Damn... THAT'S hitting below the belt...

    Worse than Coop's grad rates...

    wow...

    I just..

    wow.
     
  13. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    Guys, what is the projected graduation rate now? Where would that leave us ranked on this list?
     
  14. VprHis

    VprHis Get off my lawn, you hooligans!

    I'm not about to work that out... but I'm guessing 75-80% as of Tressel's arrival? maybe closer to the 75, though not for lack of effort at improvement.

    Not too many academic casualties...
    Several disciplinary, though
    Several NFL departures (DAMN NCAA can't take into account our excellent recent history regarding advanced job placement (or, the draft, as it's known to most))
     
  15. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Based on the sortable chart on BP

    Current players on roster:
    Sr - 16
    Jr - 17
    So - 17
    Fr - 15
    (ignoring 18 incoming recruits)

    Already lost:
    Sr - olds, cook, chattams, riley, thomas, boone
    Jr - clarett
    So - Hiley, Irizarry, R Smith, Guilford
    Fr -

    Additional possible casualties:
    Sr - E Underwood
    JR -
    So -
    Fr - B Underwood, Dukes

    NFL draft:
    Jr - Holmes, Pitcock, Youboty
    So - Ginn
    Fr - ?

    Best possible:
    Sr - 16 of 23 ()
    Jr - 16 of 18 (Holmes is gone)
    So - 17 of 21 ()
    Fr - 15 of 15 ()
    -------------
    64 of 77

    83.12 = 83%

    Worst possible:
    Sr - 16 of 23 (EJ)
    Jr - 14 of 18 (Holm, Pit, Youb)
    So - 16 of 21 (Ginn)
    Fr - 13 of 15 (Underwood, Dukes)
    -------------
    59 of 77

    76.62 = 77%
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2005

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