Do you think that ESPN might want to come to Columbus for the Texas game?

[LightningRod]

ease up LR.....mile is being friendly.

Ease up from what?

 

[TheMile]

have you seen the BCS the last 2 years? if it comes down to USC, OU, and OSU......USC and OU will get the nod regardless of how many gamedays we have

Oh, I don't know about that. OU has gotten thwacked in the MNC game two years running. Also, OSU's tough schedule will make them mighty next season in the BCS's computer rankings, which may have increased importance given the loss of the AP poll.

if there was another undefeated team in 2002 we wouldnt have gotten the shot either. gameday doesnt have as much as an effect as you think it does.

Well, it's certainly having an effect on the people in this thread. This is partially over the second string Gameday guys' comments. :tongue2:

 

[LightningRod]

Ask Auburn if the media doesn't effect a college football team's season. What if Oklahoma, USC, and OSU are undefeated at the end of next year? With U of M as another potential contender, I want all the exposure we can get, especially considering our weak nonconference schedule.

I don't follow Auburn so I have no comment on Auburn's situation. What I do know is that ESPN obtains some of its highest ratings by televising Buckeye football games notwithstanding the presence of gameday. If you feel Michigan needs the exposure, then I will send ESPN a note encouraging them to set up shop at AA on 9/10. OSU viewership will not suffer one bit.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

At the moment, I agree. Again, I'm anticipating the climate around ESPN and OSU to be much improved in 9 months. I point was not the OSU has any trouble soliciting donations, but that Gameday exposure can only get more.

i think you are in the minority

Well, it's certainly having an effect on the people in this thread. This is partially over the second string Gameday guys' comments.

the negative perception of ohio state is already in the minds of the voters. it doesnt matter what pregame show is at the shoe....that wont change.

 

[TheMile]

I don't follow Auburn so I have no comment on Auburn's situation. What I do know is that ESPN obtains some of its highest ratings by televising Buckeye football games notwithstanding the presence of gameday. If you feel Michigan needs the exposure, then I will send ESPN a note encouraging them to set up shop at AA on 9/10. OSU viewership will not suffer one bit.

Neither Michigan nor OSU needs exposure.

Since you don't seem to understand my point, here's a different tack. Assuming this blows over, I guess I feel it's pointless to harbor a grudge when both sides, ESPN and OSU, stand to benefit.

i think you are in the minority
the negative perception of ohio state is already in the minds of the voters. it doesnt matter what pregame show is at the shoe....that wont change.

I guess I think ESPN is fickle and nine months is a huge amount of time for them. By then, I figure some NBA player will have committed some crime or whatever, so their wrath will be directed elsewhere.

 

[LightningRod]

Neither Michigan nor OSU needs exposure.

Since you don't seem to understand my point, here's a different tack. Assuming this blows over, I guess I feel it's pointless to harbor a grudge when both sides, ESPN and OSU, stand to benefit.

Honest question. What do you think the odds are of this matter blowing over by the Texas game? And follow up. If UM was getting hammered like this, would you be anxious to see gameday in AA on 9/10 against ND? Keep in mind ND would come in with praises blaring - a new beginning. Texas, fresh off a Mack Brown Rose Bowl triumph, would be praised to the high heavens in comparison to that dastardly Tressel. I understand your point clearly, but as Geiger said, I deal in realities.

 

[MegaWoody]

TOSU will have a new Athletic Director by then; Texas will be highly ranked with a superstar QB; and TG Jr. and tOSU will be ranked very high as well. Therefore ESPN will definitely want to be at that game, bigtime!

Depending on the staus of the NCAA investigations, we might want to welcome them to Columbus. It could a perfect opportunity to demonstrate that the program is fundamentally clean and has taken care of any isolated problems very effectively and fairly. There will be a huge audience for the game -- easily the biggest game of the 2005 season at that point. So it could serve our purposes very nicely to get coverage that day.

On the other hand, if things are still up in the air and ESPN continues its vendetta, we should very politely decline their participation. The ESPN guys would use it as they did the Alamo Bowl and tOSU fans in the background might not 'represent' at their best.

The media are incredibly powerful today and we have to acknowledge that, not wish it wasn't so. And because they are so powerful, we should try to use them to our own advantage whenever we can. They aren't going to go away, so our best approach is to play to them when we can and avoid them when we must.

 

[VprHis]

The media are incredibly powerful today and we have to acknowledge that, not wish it wasn't so. And because they are so powerful, we should try to use them to our own advantage whenever we can. They aren't going to go away, so our best approach is to play to them when we can and avoid them when we must.

That's not HALF as much fun as MY plan... I was gonna drive over to Bristol and burn the place down. Then again, maybe that would just validate their own feelings of importance and self-righteousness. Plus, I'd really hate to go to jail over the SOB's.

No, let's just go with your plan... for now

 

[TheMile]

Honest question. What do you think the odds are of this matter blowing over by the Texas game?

OK, this seems to be where we differ. Maybe I'm wrong and biased because I don't give any credence to the idea that OSU is dirty, but I fully expect the matter to blow over in a few months.

If UM was getting hammered like this, would you be anxious to see gameday in AA on 9/10 against ND?

Since I don't nearly have the emotional involvement in this as I would if Michigan was, I must admit that I don't know. That's why I'm posting, to give a coldly rational view of the situation.

 

[LightningRod]

Since I don't nearly have the emotional involvement in this as I would if Michigan was, I must admit that I don't know. That's why I'm posting, to give a coldly rational view of the situation.

Fair enough.

 

[martinss01]

At the moment, I agree. Again, I'm anticipating the climate around ESPN and OSU to be much improved in 9 months. My point was not the OSU has any trouble soliciting donations, but that Gameday exposure can only get more.

i think you greatly underestimate how pissed we are and the effectiveness of our memories. whether or not espin forgets about this years problems and lets go. WE WILL NOT. im less conscerned with espin showing up and badmouthing us. im more conscerned with a riot outside the stadium. if the texas game were tomorrow i would put money on there being a very large one. 9 months from now? without an apology or serious ass kissing from espin... i could see a lot of arrests and damage. with gameday on campus you are almost asking for a riot. what? 2 mill extra from boosters? yeah, meets 6 mill in riot damage. not worth it me thinks...

what you seem to not see is that tOSU fans are not angry or upset with espin. we are enraged. there is a very serious difference there.

I root for Michigan first and the Big Ten second. While OSU's national championship was admittedly bittersweet, I want your program to be healthy. I just want you to lose one game a year.

heres to "the game" deciding the fate of the big 10 yet again!
:cheers:

p.s. your team sucks :p

 

[11bravoBuck]

UGABuck feeling good

"I am the 36 year old father of two children. I am a VP of a 49,000 employee company. I am a graduate of the University of Georgia but I am a Buckeye for life.

But if there is no apology----and now there likely won't be an apology thanks to Troy------ and if Gameday shows up for the UT game, I will board a plane, fly to Columbus and get a good night of sleep. I'll wake up (stay sober for Gameday or jail, at least), get to the set/site early and throw foreign objects and curse ESPN every moment there is someone on stage...even if it is Herbie.

I know this irrational and casts us in a poor light and really does not solve anything. But it would at the very least feel good to exact some level of revenge on those ****ers."
–UGABuck–

UGAB, I feel your pain. It sure as hell would “feel good to exact some level of revenge on those ****ers.”

And much as I would enjoy seeing the ESPN production truck engulfed in flames in the middle of Mirror Lake on game day or Lee Corso’s face laminated with pepperoni and extra cheese, I think that we need to go for here is something a little more positive.

Despite the failure of tOSU public affairs apparatus to effectively counter the ESPiN-led attack, there is a lot we can do as individual alumni, fans and students.

One of them is making our views known in plain, unconfrontational terms to local and national media, the Big Ten Conference, the Alumni Association (ATTN: Archie Griffin), and friends and neighbors.

Secondly, ignore and terminate financial relationships with media offenders such as ESPiN and the Cleveland PD. (Who the **** is Spud Shaw and why is he on the street)?

Maybe write a letter to tOSU administration urging an indefinite ban ESPiN from campus until an appropriate retraction is offered.

BTW UGABuck, if I can make it to the game, I’ll bring some pepperoni for the both of us.

 

[ranger71]

Nine months is forever.

I'm in Colorado so not as exposed as those living in Ohio. But I believe if nothing else happens to give weight to Mo's story in the next eight month, this will be a non story. U of C just went thru a nightmare and it is not much of a story now. I don't mean this story will die, but it sure won't have legs. Let's hope there are no more revelations, and go for the NC the next couple of years. Living out here about the only print stories I see about this are AP, and not alot of those. Nine months can heal alot of wounds.

 

[Saw31]

Living in C-Bus for 5 years in the '90's and witnessing many riots, I would have to believe it would be a huge mistake to allow BSPN on campus. Hell, every spring there was a riot just because it was finally warm enough to go out and destroy things.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

OK, this seems to be where we differ. Maybe I'm wrong and biased because I don't give any credence to the idea that OSU is dirty, but I fully expect the matter to blow over in a few months.

its gone on for 2 years now. espin was in columbus digging this up for a long time before clarett gave them their "story". i dont think it goes away in 9 months.