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Oh8ch;6216; said:
I also have a hard time feeling sorry for groups like Metallica not getting every dime for their creative efforts. One hundred years ago the greatest talents had to perform live to be paid. If you could sneka inside the fence you could listen for free.

i have a hard time feeling sorry for groups like Metallica-- no, scratch that. i have a hard time feeling sorry for Metallica specifically, because if it wasn't for the fact that kids were dubbing their tapes for their friends back in '82 they never would have made it big in the first place. fuck Metallica. i'll never pay to listen to them. besides, all their new shit SUCKS. they haven't put out a decent album since '91.

besides, most of the stuff i've downloaded has actually been purchased by me at some point. i must have had ten thousand dollars worth of CDs stolen from me over the years. probably more.
 
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BuckNutty;1405914; said:
Someone needs to create a graphic for a Horrible Post Award complete with a winged helmet and other horrible, disgusting things. :sick1:
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lvbuckeye;1406062; said:
i have a hard time feeling sorry for groups like Metallica-- no, scratch that. i have a hard time feeling sorry for Metallica specifically, because if it wasn't for the fact that kids were dubbing their tapes for their friends back in '82 they never would have made it big in the first place. fuck Metallica. i'll never pay to listen to them. besides, all their new shit SUCKS. they haven't put out a decent album since '91.
Agree on Metallica. I bought their entire back catalog pre-And Justice for All after a kid at school dubbed Master of Puppets and gave me a copy of it (and yes, I bought Master of Puppets too, despite the fact I had a pirated copy).

I have bought more complete albums because of "dubbing" back in the day, or because of mp3s now, not less.
 
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BUCKYLE;1406711; said:
I don't understand why every band doesn't follow Radiohead's lead and offer their album for download online for under five bucks. I can't wait until everyone else catches on.
established bands probably should all drop there labels and sell their stuff through their website, why pay someone else when they can make more doing it themselves, don't need access to all the distribution avenues anymore...
 
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Yeah, the Pirate Bay trial is amusing if nothing else.

Much like Napster, the chances of them winning are slim.

Pirate Bay Trial Turns into a Circus - PC World

If nothing else, the copyright infringement trial of The Pirate Bay Four in Sweden is turning into an entertaining spectacle. For courtroom drama, it's got it all: Irreverent defendants joking with prosecutors; rabid anti-copyright proponents with megaphones; a hacked recording industry Website; and even a cool pirate bus parked outside the court.

As an Ars Technica report indicates, The Pirate Bay defendants are either indifferent to the ways of business, including eye-glazing details like contracts and copyright law, or they're really good at faking it. Defendant Fredrik Neij, who owns The Pirate Bay's domain, told prosecutors that he never read a contract he signed that stated he would oversee the site's operations.

Prosecutors also tried to show that the Pirate Bay team knew all along that the site linked to copyrighted material. They asked Neij about a speech he made in 2006, where he said the site had received numerous threats from copyright owners. Neij replied that he hadn't written the speech, apparently implying that he wasn't clear on its contents.

Whatever they may lack in business acumen, the defendants definitely have a sense of humor. Wired reports that The Pirate Bay crew ran into prosecutors at an Italian restaurant on Wednesday, where the defendants jokingly tried to get the Suits to pick up the check. (They failed.)

Meanwhile, hackers defaced the Swedish website of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. But defendant Peter Sunde urged Pirate Bay supporters to give it a rest, adding that website defacing would only "reflect on us badly."

The Pirate Bay trial really comes down to this: It's the Kids vs. the Parents. The Kids, who admittedly are funnier and hipper (and probably smarter) than the Parents, wants to download copyright-protected stuff for free. The Parents want them to pay for it.

Who will win?
 
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The Pirate Bay Trial: The Official Verdict - Guilty | TorrentFreak
Just minutes ago the verdict in the case of The Pirate Bay Four was announced. All four defendants were accused of ‘assisting in making copyright content available’. Peter Sunde: Guilty. Fredrik Neij: Guilty. Gottfrid Svartholm: Guilty. Carl Lundstr?m: Guilty. The four receive 1 year in jail each and fines totaling $3,620,000.

While only a few weeks ago, it seems like an eternity since the trial of The Pirate Bay Four ended and the court retired to consider its verdict. The prosecution claimed that the four defendants were ‘assisting in making copyright content available’ and demanded millions of dollars in damages. The defense did not agree, and all pleaded not guilty - backed up by the inimitable King Kong defense.

Today, Friday April 17, the court issued its decision: article continuously updated

“The court has found that by using Pirate Bay’s services there has been file-sharing of music, films and computer games to the extent the prosecutor has stated in his case,” said the district court. “This file-sharing constitutes an unlawful transfer to the public of copyrighted performances.”
 
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