DT Johnathan "Big Hank" Hankins (Dallas Cowboys)

[WoodyWorshiper]

How many NFL players blow their millions anyway? My point is worst case scenario he takes a chance to win a national title gets injured drops to a late round pick and still makes a lot of money. Absolute worst case scenario.

Bro. I know what you're trying to say in this thread, but you're pretty much embarrassing yourself. Yes, playing for a MNC at TOSU would be great for any player that comes here. BUT! You're trying to put multiple millions of dollars on par with a few hundred thousand. Seriously, and I don't want to be a D.ick here ( but I am most of the time), but how in the HELL can you think that a guy who piss.ed away $22 MIL could possibly be as happy as bailing himself out by signing for $400K?

I ain't the sharpest razor on the Proglide cartridge, but I know that this type of reasoning is, well not real intelligent, and I'll leave it at that.

You are certainly a great Buckeye fan, and we'd all love to have the Big'Fella back next year. But it just doesn't make sense for him to return if the pot of gold is sitting on his front doorstep.

Peace

 

[RB07OSU]

I support his decision either way. I have seen a decision to come back turn out poorly and I have also seen Manti Teo come back to ND this season and have a shot for a national title, plus slightly raise his profile and likely his draft position. It all depends on the individual and luck after the decision is made. I'm sure Big Hank will take all of his personal circumstances, in addition to the team, into account and make the best decision. All that being said, getting Big Hank back would go an awfully long ways in helping us get to the national title next year.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

100% of those people don't have the opportunity to play for a national championship.

Silly.... There are so many variables that could happen next season. He could have a Boone/Brewer fall from the first round......or he could win a title and move his draft stock up a few spots (if he's projected a first rounder this year, what does it matter?). Financially, he won't gain much sticking around......but could lose a lot. So I say that he should take the money while it's there. Nothing in football is certain.

P.S. I wonder if Barkley wishes that he would have left last season.....

 

[Mike80]

You do realize how bad that comparison is?

400k isn't enough for you? Geez

If Hankins is ready to go, he should go. DTs have a limited lifespan in the NFL and he should get paid while he can do it.

To say anything else is silly.

And please don't go searching for an email address to beg him to stay, ok?

 

[3074326]

As much as I'd personally love to say I played for OSU and won a title, I'd rather have $22 million dollars and it's not even close.

Money isn't everything, but it sure is a lot. After I started working full time and living on my own I came to realize this.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Who in a million years would have guessed that would happen to Brewster? Mike went from a second round pick (?) to undrafted. What's to say the same couldn't happen to Hankins?

I think most of Brewsters poor senior performance was due to his attitude and diminished desire. He played very sloppily. Remember all the shitty snaps? Those weren't due to any injuries.

He was only helped off from minor nicks and dings, nothing major.

Hankins wasn't hurt...if he was assisted off the field it was due to conditioning, and again I don't recall seeing that happen near as often as moany here say it did. Not to say that it really wasn't that often.

My point is that while there is risk, the risk will always be there. If he does stay for his senior year and wins a national title without getting hurt, he'll get drafted at least as high as he would after this year, and have a national championship ring to boot. I don't see his performance decreasing due to attitude like what happened with Brewster.

By the way, we all know just how accurate draft experts end up being when the draft actually comes around, so Hank may not even get drafted in the first round at all, especially if NFL scouts noticed the "conditioning issues" that many here seemed to have noticed.

 

[billmac91]

I think most of Brewsters poor senior performance was due to his attitude and diminished desire. He played very sloppily. Remember all the [Mark May]ty snaps? Those weren't due to any injuries.


Hankins wasn't hurt...if he was assisted off the field it was due to conditioning, and again I don't recall seeing that happen near as often as moany here say it did. Not to say that it really wasn't that often.

My point is that while there is risk, the risk will always be there. If he does stay for his senior year and wins a national title without getting hurt, he'll get drafted at least as high as he would after this year, and have a national championship ring to boot. I don't see his performance decreasing due to attitude like what happened with Brewster.

By the way, we all know just how accurate draft experts end up being when the draft actually comes around, so Hank may not even get drafted in the first round at all, especially if NFL scouts noticed the "conditioning issues" that many here seemed to have noticed.

Just piggy-backing a bit off this post, here is the most recent draft analysis from CBS Sports.

Players his size usually line up primarily at nose tackle, but Ohio State uses Hankins all over the line, both inside and on the edges.
Hankins has a naturally wide frame and carries his weight surprisingly well with quick feet and natural body control. Hankins does a nice job working in the gaps and splitting double-teams while still finding ways to be productive and collapse the pocket.
His draft stock has taken a hit this season as he continues to struggle with consistency and fatigue, frequently taking plays off and not giving top effort on every snap. He moves so well for a 320+ pounder and has the raw power to toss blockers like a ragdoll, but that's when he's playing at 100 percent, which hasn't happened consistently in 2012. He is a smart, coachable football player with a good head on his shoulders, but has room to improve his read/react skills.

I have been one of those who questions his conditioning a bit. I think CBS misses the mark in assuming he takes plays off. I think Jonathon gets gassed easily and it shows when he needs help getting off the field by medical staff or it appears he isn't putting forth the effort. It isn't an effort issue, it's a "he isn't quite an every down DT yet" issue. I truthfully think I can count on two hands the amount of times Jonathon has displayed an amazing ability to get to the perimeter and make the tackle on a wide-receiver bubble screen, to then need medical assistance getting off the field. It's jaw dropping skill followed by the need to stop the game due to exhaustion.

Hank appears to have fallen to the third or fourth DT in this draft according to a few mock drafts, which is still good enough for first round, but he doesn't appear to be in that top 5 pick range anymore.

First round money is still great so I still assume he leaves, but it might not be the slam-dunk we thought it was 2-3 months ago.

I think Jonathon did a fantastic job shedding weight and getting into better shape, I think the next challenge is to build up his stamina and become more of a 3-4 down player that gives that consistent dominating performance over the course of a possesion rather than a few plays.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Here are the positions where the first four DT/NT have been picked in each draft the last five years:

2012: 11, 12, 14, 36
2011: 3, 13, 21, 30
2010: 2, 3, 10, 26
2009: 9, 24, 32, 40
2008: 5, 7, 47, 54

If Hank has indeed fallen from first projected DT to third or fourth DT, that is huge, especially if he's fourth. If you throw out the highest and lowest outliers (2 and 54), you still have an average position of 7 for the first DT picked and 33 for the fourth DT picked. That is a 26-position drop and a shit-ton of money lost. And before anyone says that he has three months to get ready for the combines, so does al the other DT prospects for this draft.

 

[Wilfred]

Sorry if im doing this wrong...

http://theozone.net/football/2012/PostSpringGame/hankins.html


?My goal when I first got here was to win a national championship,? Hankins said.

?We can?t play for it this year and I really want to win a national championship. So, I think next year ? my senior year ? we?ll have a really good chance of winning it.?

?I?m going to stay here until I win a national championship. That?s my plan,? Hankins said.

?Now, if I happen to leave after my junior year because I?m projected to be the top overall pick, then I might have to go. Know what I?m saying? But if not, I?m going to stay with my teammates and enjoy my life at Ohio State.?

 

[osustamm]

Sorry if im doing this wrong...

http://theozone.net/football/2012/PostSpringGame/hankins.html


?My goal when I first got here was to win a national championship,? Hankins said.

?We can?t play for it this year and I really want to win a national championship. So, I think next year ? my senior year ? we?ll have a really good chance of winning it.?

?I?m going to stay here until I win a national championship. That?s my plan,? Hankins said.

?Now, if I happen to leave after my junior year because I?m projected to be the top overall pick, then I might have to go. Know what I?m saying? But if not, I?m going to stay with my teammates and enjoy my life at Ohio State.?

Those quotes were from the spring and should be taken with as small grain of salt you can get.

 

[Oh8ch]

My point is worst case scenario he takes a chance to win a national title gets injured drops to a late round pick and still makes a lot of money. Absolute worst case scenario.

Marcus Lattimore

 

[Fremont Buckeye]

Here are the positions where the first four DT/NT have been picked in each draft the last five years:

2012: 11, 12, 14, 36
2011: 3, 13, 21, 30
2010: 2, 3, 10, 26
2009: 9, 24, 32, 40
2008: 5, 7, 47, 54

That is pretty much irrelevant as drafts vary from year to year as does the NFL position need. That and the draft changed drastically with the rookie salary scale and how teams approach drafting for their team and their current needs.

A sample of years of where DTs were drafted proves little to nothing. If you are preceived to be the best player in the draft or a solid player in the draft you get drafted in high. That is why players get personal evaluations from individuals who talk to NFL teams to see where a particular player projects to go in a draft in a given year. Also remember Coach Meyer has an individual (Coop) in the Woody Hayes Facility that evaluates NFL talent, who may be advising Big Hank on the pros and cons of staying or leaving.

I think Hankins goes as the guaranteed money will be tough to turn down. I selfishly hope he stays but would understand if he choose to enter the NFL draft.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

If Hankins is ready to go, he should go. DTs have a limited lifespan in the NFL and he should get paid while he can do it.

To say anything else is silly.

The NFL life span is irrelevent until he actually enters the NFL...his staying for his senior year in college has nothing to do with his NFL life span. Saying it does is what's silly.

And why get paid low first round or high second round money when he can earn back that projected top-5 projection he had before the season by improving his stamina (which appears to be his knock according to many here and NFL scouts)?

 

[Buckeneye]

The NFL life span is irrelevent until he actually enters the NFL...his staying for his senior year in college has nothing to do with his NFL life span. Saying it does is what's silly.

I think what Mike is trying to say is that, much like a running back... our boys in the trenches have a very limited shelf life.

 

[MaxBuck]

The NFL life span is irrelevent until he actually enters the NFL...his staying for his senior year in college has nothing to do with his NFL life span. Saying it does is what's silly.

Saying that the wear and tear of a college season has no impact on a player's NFL "lifespan" is ridiculous. The pounding that joints and skulls receive has a cumulative effect, and it has nothing to do with whether the people administering the pain are being paid or not. And one more year of age is one more year of age, no way around that.