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EJ Underwood, Maupin, Dukes suspended

Oh8ch said:
Couldn't agree more.

This is "just a message board" and we throw a lot of derogatory terms around about players, teams, coaches and often each other.

When it comes to recruits there is zero tolerance for deragatory language.

When it comes to our own players - our very own S&G heros (many of them still teens) - I think we should all step up to the challenge of finding an appropriate way of stating our opinion. This is particularly the case when we are speculating on situations for which we do not have all the facts - which is pretty much 100% of the time.
I agree, we want this to be a place that we would be proud of if recruits or players were visiting. I have been guilty of making some comments about Lydell Ross in the past that were not very intelligent. I think you are totally right, these guys are young kids and they will make foolish mistakes.
 
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SanClementeBuck said:
For savant: Oh yes I would, OK?
Ha ha, ok. If you want to tell a diesel 6'6", 300 pounder that he's an idiot, then go for it. You can say that now, but he's legit the most intimidating person I've ever me. These internet tough guys crack me up. And even if you would say it, does it really need to be said? Have some tact.
 
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Savante: It's commendable for you to support a friend who also happens to be a very talented football player. Almost anyone of us who attend(ed) OSU has paid campus traffic tickets. The magnatude of this subject is what I'm talking about. $2K worth of "who cares" is a bunch...it's outta the park.

I'm sure the player could beat the crap out of me if he wished. I could be his great-grandfather. But that would be one more case of bad thinking.

This isn't about physical stuff, it's about mental stuff...attitude, and in a sense, character.

So, defend your buddy. I'm guessing he may be one hellava player and friend. All I'm saying is: he, in this case didn't think of the TEAM. By not practicing, he hurts the TEAM. Last I checked, football is still a TEAM sport. And, the timing of having one more negative thing to print and say about the Buckeyes just plays into some media agendas.

Now you and he can answer this question: Is that stupid or not?
 
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He's still only 20 years old, though. I just think it's kinda crude to be piling on this kid who doesn't deserve it. We put ourselves on pedestals and think "oh, man, we'd never do anything like that", but if you think back to being 20 years old, I'm sure you did some stupid shit. I still do stupid shit that I regret all the time, and I'm 22. So I just think it's not the time or place to be piling on this kid.

It wasn't a great decision to make but I tried to give you some insight to what happened. He has a new (well, new to him) car and I don't think he cared about his old one, so he didn't care if it was impounded. He hasn't tried to get it out even though he has the money, so obviously it doesn't mater to him. Maybe he didn't realize that even if the car is impounded, you still have to pay them. I don't know.

I mean, clearly, the MoC stuff has affected everyone wayyyyyyyyy too much. As BrutusBobcat said to me -- "A few years ago, we'd be like tickets? Who cares?"
 
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Savante: Like I said, it's loyal and darn good of you to defend your friend. Yes, at 20 yrs old the world looks much different than at my age. For 18 and 19-year olds at Camp Pendleton, which is a stone's throw from my house, the Iraq war has given them, and for many their families, one hellava short time to grow up. As we see everyday in the media, far too many of them will never again see a football game, let alone play in one. Let me tell you, these young Marines are TEAM players every moment of their lives. None would think of letting their TEAM down.

Dramatic? Not if you are 18-years old in combat. I don't see much difference between these young men and you young men. Just a much different setting.

So, when you say don't pile on, don't be too harsh, give the kid a break, cut some slack...it has a hollow ring to it.

You can castigate me for being to harsh on a friend. Doesn't bother me. My sincere Buckeye response to you is this: Life is a zero sum game. Seems like a small thing to you and other posters, but, some day, you'll get it.
 
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Hey now, Mr. Maupin has made an error in judgement but it's not a "horrible mistake" or as serious as a marine in war.

It's his first time in the dog-house publicly, let him take his medicine, pay for the mistake and return to the team. Maybe he's back for spring practice in a few months.

We get to comment on it but it's for his teammates and coaches to judge.

peace.
 
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http://www.dispatch.com/sports-story.php?story=dispatch/2005/03/04/20050304-C3-00.html
Ohio State football coaches are preparing for spring practice as if cornerback E.J. Underwood won’t be back. It’s not set in stone, but insiders say it would be a mild surprise if the suspended Underwood returns.

Word is the Buckeyes still aren’t likely to use sensational receiver Ted Ginn Jr. at corner, and they would instead convert a safety or two — possibly Dante Whitner or Tyler Everett — to corner.
 
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maybe this question has been asked, so at the risk of being redundant.....how does this effect brandon underwood? i though i read in some earlier posts that he was developing an attitude, possibly due to the situation his brother is in. anybody have an info on his status?

as far as maupin goes...i sure hope he makes things right and gets back on the field, sounds like a huge upside.
 
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n8butch said:
maybe this question has been asked, so at the risk of being redundant.....how does this effect brandon underwood? i though i read in some earlier posts that he was developing an attitude, possibly due to the situation his brother is in. anybody have an info on his status?

as far as maupin goes...i sure hope he makes things right and gets back on the field, sounds like a huge upside.
ytown11 reported some things over on BN if you have premium access - good read actually - and he has some connections to the program [been right in the past].

He said:
Maupin is gone. No specific reason but he is not with the team anymore and they dont expect that to change.

He did not have any new news on the Underwoods. I would say that they isnt a good thing for EJ not sure about Brandon. Brandon was at the spring practice at WHAC that was open to the public but all the pictures showed him studying - not sure if this was due to injury or academics or both...

Here is the premium link to ytown11 updates Winter Updates
 
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strohs said:
Good read, but I really dont like hearing that about the underwoods, we need them.
That or Jamario better step up big time come fall!
Too bad about our losses, I always feel bad for players that make some common mistakes and pay for it with a lifetime of whatifs :(

However I think we'll be fine at corner if the underwoods do not return, and Jamario seems more than ready to fill the #4 CB spot (if not higher), IMO. Everett/Whitner will fill the #2 spot (my votes is on everett)...

Always hate to see these guys leave, especially in light of the new apr crap. Tho I think Tressel's emphasis on education will pay off even if we have not been able to avoid the other suspensions. We should still be projected for a 75% graduation rate with those three losses based on the estimate statistically that I broke down a few days ago on here.
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
However I think we'll be fine at corner if the underwoods do not return, and Jamario seems more than ready to fill the #4 CB spot (if not higher), IMO. Everett/Whitner will fill the #2 spot (my votes is on everett)...
I hope Everett wins that battle too, but thats becuause I love Whitner back there at safety....
 
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My thoughts exactly, "Lights out" is an absolute terror at safety and strikes fear into opposing offenses. And I remember seeing Everett line up at corner a decent bit last year and hold his own. Plus he looks like he has the size to be a very physical corner, which is a huge asset since Youboty, Welch, O'Neal and others aren't quite as large.
 
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