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ESPN lobs another grenade ... B.J. Barre

Discussion in 'ESPN's 04-05 war against tOSU and Tressel' started by 3yardsandacloud, Nov 12, 2004.

  1. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Barre hosted Clarett on his recruiting visit - ESPN FB

    Friday, November 12, 2004
    Barre hosted Clarett on his recruiting visit
    By Seth Wickersham - ESPN The Magazine
    B.J. Barre, a former Ohio State cornerback who was host to Maurice Clarett during the ex-tailback's recruiting trip, says that during his two years as a scholarship-athlete he was paid for doing little work, had tutors write papers for him and was enrolled -- without his knowledge -- into Ohio State's Office of Disability Services so that he could take tests with help and under no time limit.

    Barre said he supported Clarett by speaking publicly about taking money from boosters and academic improprieties because "I understand what he's going through."

    "I think everybody already knows it was kinda going on," he said. After reading Clarett's comments in the Nov. 22 issue of ESPN The Magazine, Barre said: "It wasn't nothing new to me."

    Barre, who played in 10 games as a freshman at Ohio State in 2000, said that he worked construction on Ohio Stadium during the spring and early summer of 2001. He said he did not remember the name of the company that hired him. He said that "six or seven" other Ohio State players did it with him but declined to give their names.

    "I worked construction on the stadium," Barre said. "I pretty much gathered up and hung out with the boys, went to go get something to eat and kinda just, you know, I guess what they call work, but we really didn't do too much work."

    Barre said the most work he ever did was push a broom. Clarett and former Buckeye Curtis Crosby told ESPN The Magazine about similar no-work/high-pay jobs.

    "It would vary," Barre said. "Depends on how much we showed up. If you show up four times a week, you might get $800, $900, almost $1,000, depending on how much you showed up."

    Barre, now 23 and playing with the Arena Football League's Chicago Rush, said his tutors often did his classwork for him.

    "When I was there, I kinda had a couple of tutors who wrote a couple of papers for me and stuff like that and help me out more than they were supposed to," he said.

    Although he says he does not have any sort of learning problems, he was allowed to take tests under guidelines for students with learning disabilities.

    "It was a program where I'd go to a different building to take my test. I would leave class to take my test," he said. "Sometimes the teacher would help me with the test, like the tutor would read it to me or whatever to help me with the test."

    Barre echoed Clarett and other former Buckeyes Sammy Maldonado and LeAndre Boone, who said their schedules were stacked with classes friendly to athletes. The first that popped into Barre's mind was the same African-American studies class Clarett took. Clarett said he almost never attended that class and when he did it was not difficult to cheat.

    Did certain Ohio State teachers give football players an easy ride?

    "I don't wanna say easy ride," Barre said, "but I guess show favoritism."

    Barre said that he did not go to his African-American studies class yet received points for attendance.

    Like several other former players who spoke to ESPN, Barre said his academic adviser picked his class schedule.

    "You have advisers. It's not really you doing it. You don't even really have to pick your schedule out," he said.

    Barre said he felt he fell out of favor with the Buckeyes coaching staff and after that thought his academic advisers stacked his classes to a level where he couldn't avoid flunking out. During the fall semester of 2001, he registered with 21 credit hours -- a normal load is 12 to 14 hours; included were difficult courses, such as upper-level physics.

    "I think guys they'd want outta there, they'd try to load 'em up with a lot of classes, knowing they're already in academic trouble," he said. "And load 'em up with, ya know what I'm saying, really hard classes and push 'em out of there."

    Barre doesn't know how he fell out of favor with Jim Tressel and other Ohio State coaches.

    "That's the question I ask myself," he said.

    Barre indicated boosters paid other OSU football players. He said he never saw money transfer hands, but he and other players were given credit cards with names other than their own. He also said he saw players driving around in numerous different cars.

    "Yeah, I mean a guy don't just pop up with two and three cars a week, you know what I'm saying?" he said. "Switching cars like that because, like you said, we're college athletes. We don't get paid for playing football. So it's kinda hard for a guy to just pop up with two or three cars a month or something like that. We don't have the money to pay for it."

    Barre, who went to Whitmer High in Toledo, flunked out of Ohio State in 2002 and continued playing football at Pasadena City College in California, where he earned his associate's degree. He was host to Clarett when the noted high school star made his recruiting visit to Columbus in 2001.

    "He was a pretty cool guy," he said.

    Ohio State associate athletics director for communications Steve Snapp said the university would have no comment on Barre's allegations.
  2. ohiobuck94

    ohiobuck94 Buckeye Beach Bum

    This guy has trouble with the English language. What a guy.
    Flunked out of easy classes and tOSU was out to get him. :2004:
  3. LloydSev

    LloydSev DreamWeaver

    You know.. last I checked.. I thought they could sign up for their own classes? I thought the academic advisors were just to HELP.. it's their own stupid ass faults letting someone else sign them up for classes.
  4. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    This is brilliant. No wonder OSU isn't getting caught doing all of this illegal stuff.

    They don't take care of the star players (Doss, Krenzel, Will Smith, Mike Jenkins).

    They take care of guys like B.J. Barre. Never fucking heard of him. It's funny how all of this "evidence" is not accessible to anyone except the student himself.

    It's perfect. OSU can't refute or deny anything to do with a student's academic records. Unbelievable.

    Have BJ Barre produce a transcript that has upper level physics on it and I'll believe it. ESPN is going to bring Jim Tressel and OSU down if it kills them.
  5. ohiobuck94

    ohiobuck94 Buckeye Beach Bum

    Upper level Physics? He must have meant "Upper level fishing".
  6. BIATCHabutuka

    BIATCHabutuka out of chaos comes playoffs

    another former buckeye that will have a hard time getting a job in this state. what a shame.

    as for the loading up the schedule with tougher classes thing, it is called progress towards a degree. there are no bullshit degrees. sure there are some significantly easier than others but eventually damn near every degree track has its weed out courses. they aren't just for student athletes.

    i also had a decent pay no work job at ohio state. i worked for the registrar. the office of testing specifically. my boss had offices on three floors and my 'office' was really the pre office to his one office. it had a couch in it and i was regularly encouraged to take a nap and sleep it off. if i couldn't sleep there i could get one of two keys to the top floor of the tower and sleep in there. they had some old furniture and a bunch of records they were required to maintain for X years. technically i was straightening things up, but i was sleeping and it was encouraged by a very kind boss of mine.
  7. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    "He said he did not remember the name of the company that hired him."

    Tell you what, if I had worked for a company that paid me $800-$1000 a week for doing little to nothing, you can bet your ass I'd remember them...
  8. ysubuck

    ysubuck Be water my friend.

    Exactly Mili.

    How fucking reliable is this? I got drugs and girls and firetrucks and money and more drugs and animals and little girls and MILFs.

    That's incredible! Who got them for you?

    I don't know? Some guy.

    Ridiculous. This is like a bad dream.
  9. ohiobuck94

    ohiobuck94 Buckeye Beach Bum

    Hell, I'd drop out of school and still be working for them. :slappy:
  10. scooter1369

    scooter1369 Chief Toad Fart

    I'm with you there. I would have kept that pipeline open forever.
  11. brutus2002

    brutus2002 Junior

    These fuckers have amnesia when it comes to names. I mean the shit supposedly took place 2-3 years ago. No wounder the dumb bastards Flunked out.

    Whats youR name?
    I dunno!!

    It is kinda hard to incriminate people when you cannot identify them. I'm sure there are record of this. I'm sure the company will say hes a lying bastard.

    Who the fuck is this guy anyways!!! I don't remember this guy.

    Every witness they get has something against OSU.
  12. martinss01

    martinss01 blissfully stupid

    ... perhaps they are unfamiliar with the conscept of "construction". no work/high pay jobs are the foundation of the construction industry. bet they would have shit themselves if they found out how much that guy holding the "slow/stop" sign was making :wink:. apparently they are unaware that as being one of the 5 guys watching the 1 guy dig they are playing an integral part of construction. this isn't special treatment, this is the basis of construction!

    j/k my stepdad is a construction worker. well... most of it is kidding =P

    the thing i love about this story the most is how ignorant it makes the ncaa look.

    ncaa: so where did you get all this money MoC?
    MoC: umm.. i don't know... some guy.
    ncaa: oh, ok. thats all we needed, case closed. obviously no wrong doing going on here! sorry to have taken up so much of your time sir. thanks again!

    its amazing anyone ever gets punished for anything! all you have to do when they ask you a question is say "i don't know" and it all goes away!!! :slappy:
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2004
  13. NoVABuck

    NoVABuck Newbie

    Maybe it's me, but shouldn't Tressel be commended for running off these douchebags? Wasn't it Ohio State that was widely regarded as a football factory - shoving a horde of dumbass studs through the system in the name of winning football games? Remember Andy Katzenmoyer?

    Now that the new staff has taken away the free ride, Tressel is abandoning the poor kids.

    This article illustrates the difference between the Cooper regime versus the Tressel regime. Under Cooper, players apparently got a free ride through the system. Tressel seems to have put a stop to that practice.
  14. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Looks like NoVABuck beat me to it, but I wrote it so, what the hell ...

    Is anyone starting to notice a pattern here?

    ESPN trots out a long line of accusers of questionable reputation. Each one seems to have an axe to grind with OSU, Jim Tressel and Andy Geiger. Each one seems to lack the individual integrity to:

    1) Schedule their own classes or at the very least take some form of responsibility for the direction of their education.

    2) Have the integrity to do their own course work rather than let an advisor/tutor do the work for them. Even when shown the path of least resistance concerning classes (easy classes), they still lack the ethics to complete their work under the same constrains as other students. Learning disabled considerations, make up tests, etc.

    3) Have the personal pride to actually earn a paycheck. Instead of questioning why someone would pay you thousands (allegedly) of dollars to push a broom for 20 hours a week, or worse yet, to hang out at McDonalds in lieu of working, they accept the money without rendering any effort or service.

    4) Refuse money, cars and assorted gifts from boosters when they absolutely know this to be a violation of NCAA regulations.

    5) Not remember who gave them money/gifts, when they received money/gifts, forgot who they worked for or how often/long they worked for them.

    Marco Cooper - kicked off the team Spring 2002 (Later recants his story to ESPN)

    Curtis Crosby - became academically ineligible, left in 2002

    LeAndre Boone - after two years Boone left for D1-AA Hampton, where he could play right away

    Fred Sturrup - became academically ineligible for 2001 and lost his scholarship

    Sammy Maldonado - transferred to Maryland from lack of playing time

    Robert Smith - The only player who doesn't fit the mold. Smith is not at OSU during Jim Tressel's tenure. Smith is used to strengthen the connection between boosters and payments to players. Although Smith thinks that Maurice did receive money from boosters, he has never seen (first hand) this happen with anyone and it was never offered to him. He also could not confirm for ESPN the allegations of academic improprieties or related gifts such as cars, etc. He actually hurts ESPNs argument (though you wouldn't know that from their headline) when he says he doesn't believe that the University was involved.

    Ray Issac - QB at Youngstown State under Jim Tressel. Investigated in a scandal with Michael "Mickey" Monus, chairman of the university's board of trustees. Issac stated that Tressel didn't know what was happening and the NCAA agreed. This whole story (from a decade ago) is an attempt to show a pattern of behavior from Jim Tressel that is similar to the Maurice Clarett situation.

    B.J. Barre - flunked out of OSU in 2002

    The only OSU player that doesn't fit the mold is Robert Smith. Since he never played for Jim Tressel, his opinion was only used to try and strengthen ESPN's story. So what do we have. Disgruntled ex-players with an axe to grind? Or maybe exactly the type of "student-athlete" that had been damaging and embarassing OSU for so many years. The same problem players that Jim Tressel was hired to clean out of the program along the way to rebuilding accountability into the system. Hummmm ...
  15. NoVABuck

    NoVABuck Newbie

    I agree with ESPN on this guys...

    OSU should fire John Cooper and get someone in here to get rid of all these dumbasses masquerading as student-athletes.

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