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I think they should ask former players from ALL the programs. Let's see if they might answer similarly.

Asked for a response, Steve Snapp, Ohio State's associate athletics director of communications, said: "In my opinion it's another example of selective journalism on [ESPN's] part and and an attempt to run an unbalanced story."
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Go get 'em, Steve.
 
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Now players are pissed because Geiger called these guys colossal failures.
These failures were friends of other guys.
it just keeps getting worse.
Alot fo people were asking for more credible sources. Now when some are coming forward, we are saying they are pissed over this, or that.

JT can't just bury his head in the sand. He needs to fight back, or this will deeply hurt this program for years to come. If he is guilty of any wrong doing, he should step down to hopefully minimize any punishment.
 
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in regards to the easy jobs:


this happens EVERYWHERE, in every walk of life. Getting a job is often more about "who you know" then what you can do. what drew carter is saying, everybody (not just football players) does. When a normal person wants a job, and they have a friend that works an easy job....they are going to ask their friend to get hooked up with that same job. It would be stupid to not ask that friend.

in regards to the academic help:

how can tressel possibly be implicated in any of this?

From all of these stories, I have "learned" one thing: Football players get some minor perks. HOWEVER, Coach Tressel isn't involved in any way. The only thing that he is "guilty" of is a "see no evil, hear no evil" approach.
Drew Carter, Fred Pagac, et.al., these guys are just saying the truth. However, ESPN is trying to twist it into something much bigger than it is. Talking to a friend to try and get an easy job???? OH THE HORROR!!!!!!! Every single person in the history of the universe has done this.
 
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BuckeyeTrail said:
in regards to the easy jobs:


this happens EVERYWHERE, in every walk of life. Getting a job is often more about "who you know" then what you can do. ...

Talking to a friend to try and get an easy job???? OH THE HORROR!!!!!!! Every single person in the history of the universe has done this.
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Yeah. No kidding. In college I got paid really, really well to study, eat country club cuisine whenever I damn-well pleased (and to order), and park cars at a country club which included buddying around with the members around the club, golfing on the clock. Puhh-Leaze. The easy jobs shit should not even get to print. My buddies got me a job at a country club.

Once a member flipped me a 50 because I stood there and told Marty Shottenheimer he was my favorite Browns coach of all time (which was my honest opinion) and the member went and got his own car. Man that was real hard work.
 
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Just to solve this problem they should check every school to see if this is going on, this is starting to get real old. The tudor stuff was checked last time and now they are bring stuff up from the mid 90's. When I went to college tudor's would do this kinda stuff for any student not just football players, and that was at a small college.
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I went to Otterbein college and the tudors help everyone like that. The teachers would even help everyone like that. We had a writing lab and basically they would write your paper for you.
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TUTORS. TUTORS.

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
TUTORS. TUTORS.

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I believe it was the great Edgar Allan Poe that actually allowed Tudors to do his writing for him.

You know. He was a little insane and those Tudor Style homes can make you somewhat insane. Especially, after a few bong hits of opium. man.




And on the side... The more ESPN writes the less I'm convinced of anything they have to say with all this connect the dots bullshit. They're as bad as the financial press.
 
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People need to start considering that the see no evil, hear no evil approach is an NCAA violation. The statement by Carter that is the most damaging is when he said that everyone saw Clarett driving different cars, and wondered how the coaches wouldn't have noticed. Assumming that these are accurate statements by Drew Carter (and other than the fact that it was an ESPN story, I have no reason to believe he's not telling the truth), then Ohio State and Coach Tressel would be guilty of lack of institutional control. This is the smoking gun I was scared of... someone without an axe to grind. Tudors writing papers for players and signs of improper gifts in plain sight? This has me very concerned for the first time.
 
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If the deal with Clarett's car is all they have, this has been gone over and over and over by the NCAA and they found nothing. Everyone knew about the multiple cars and that was dealt with in the investigation last year.
 
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There is nothing in that article that points to the football program. If players got cushy jobs through "hook-ups" that the players, but not the staff, knew about, and they actually report for work and did work, no matter how mundane, then there is no smoking gun. If a tutor writes a "rough draft" and then tells his "customer" to rewrite it for himself, it's not the same as the tutor providing a finished product. ESPN is cutting down every tree in the forest and hopng to find a cabin...
 
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