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FB Intern Mike Hartline (official thread)

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by BuckNutty, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Meyer is back. Deal with it Florida.



    Hartline attended Purdue's and Notre Dame's Junior Days. He was not impressed with Purdue and he came away impressed by ND. He explained why he did not attend OSU's Junior day, saying he already knows everything about OSU and that its a great school. He doesnt know if players can be treated any better than what they are treated at OSU.
  2. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Weis really seems to have it together at ND...very interesting comparison between Ty's Jr. day and Weis' effort.

    That is the best article Gary Housteau has written in a while...very thorough and interesting. Very nice work.
  3. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    i have to agree. i tend to think that unless somebody really blows everyone away at camp, that hartline will get his osu offer there, or shortly thereafter.
  4. Cornerback6

    Cornerback6 Optimism Lover

    Can anybody who has seen Hartline play or an extensive amount of video comment on his arm strength? I know the kid is skinny as a rail, but we all know that there is no direct correlation between size and strength (though size can help).

    I imagine he's no Rob S., but could anyone provide an intelligent opinion? I'm wondering if he's all touch and reads. Not that that isn't highly valuable as a QB, but then again, I'm just guessing.
  5. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Meyer is back. Deal with it Florida.

    Hartline has above average arm strength in my opinion but what really helps him is his ability to lead on the football field. He needs to put on some weight, which will come in time, but he has the intangibles you look for in a top quarterback.
  6. ScarletFever

    ScarletFever Newbie

    If Mike, weighed 220 he would be a top 10 national qb....the weight (especially for his frame) is a real concern imo..... (Keep eating (5 or 6 times a day) and lifting them weights kid)...

    I want either Mike or Hakes as the qb for this class however.....
  7. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Hartline admits it’s football first - Canton Repository

    Hartline admits it’s football first
    Friday, March 11, 2005
    By TODD PORTER Repository sports writer

    PLAIN TWP. — You’re not going to like what Mike Hartline has to say.

    This much he knows.

    “Well, I hate to say this, but football is the No. 1 factor in the decision,” said Hartline, the GlenOak High School star who is one of the top junior quarterbacks in the nation. “That’s the truth.”

    What Hartline doesn’t know is where he’ll play football in 2006.

    The 6-foot-6 QB has no shortage of college suitors following a junior season in which he completed 185 of 331 passes for 2,355 yards and 16 touchdowns. Kent State offered him a full ride as a sophomore, and recently Michigan State phoned with an offer.

    But there’s a problem. Only one QB gets on the field at once, and coaches are loath to unseat an established starter. Major Division I schools recruit one, maybe two, quarterbacks a year.

    If Ohio State is looking for just one quarterback in its recruiting class of 2006, the first one who accepts gets the financial package. The second gets left out.

    That’s what makes Hartline’s decision-making process so important.

    “You don’t want to go to a place that doesn’t take academics seriously, but you’re going there on a football scholarship,” Hartline said. “You’re going there to play football. It’s like that. I know people don’t want to hear that, but it’s just the reality, the honestly of it.

    “People will probably think I’m a stupid kid because of that. ... I like the school work as much as any kid my age does.”

    Hartline isn’t a stupid kid. A 3.3 grade-point average indicates he does just fine in the classroom. What he may be more than anything is a teen-ager with his eyes wide open.

    Things are already getting hectic. He is running track and juggling the recruiting process with school. In his bedroom sits piles of clothes and piles of letters from interested schools.

    It takes an organized person to plan a future at 16.

    “If you saw my room, you wouldn’t think I’m very organized,” he said. “It’s funny because I need to sit down and concentrate and figure out my future in the next couple of months. I’m only 16 and I have to plan out the next four or five years, and that will have a bearing on what the rest of my life will be like. I’m not used to planning four or five days down the road, and now I have to plan four or five years?”

    It is becoming a trend to commit before one’s senior high school season. Hartline’s older brother, Brian, did it in accepting an offer from Ohio State before taking his official visit.

    That decision wasn’t quite as risky. The Hartlines are well acquainted with Ohio State and Brian already had met many players and got a feel for the campus during a summer camp.

    But what if Notre Dame called tomorrow with an offer for Mike? He’s been to South Bend twice, only paying close attention to his surroundings during a junior day visit recently.

    “That would be a hard thing,” Hartline said. “I’d have to sit down with my parents and really talk. Since I can’t wait too long because of my position, I’d probably go back for another unofficial visit, hang out with the coaches, sit in on a team meeting and get a feel for what they do.”

    Official visits, which are a 48-hour visit paid for by the school, aren’t taken until November, December and January. Technically, Hartline could verbally commit to one school, take an official visit to another school and fall in love. A verbal commitment isn’t official. It can be changed.

    “You only truly know if you like the place and fit in after an official visit,” Hartline said.

    Academics aren’t completely discarded in this decision-making process. Hartline is paying attention to schools’ graduation rates.

    “They all want to portray themselves in the best light,” Hartline said. “Some school might say they have the best graduation rate in the Big Ten in the last five years. Another might say the same thing, but it’s over the last two years. You have to read everything closely and make a determination.

    “Right now, for me, the one thing that is important is tradition. What have they done (wins and losses) over the last couple of years? Who have they made? What players did well there and had success in the NFL. ... I’m like every kid being recruited by schools. I want to move on to the next level and reach my highest potential.”

    Hartline said his top three choices are, in no order, Ohio State, Michigan and Notre Dame. Many assume that if OSU offers, he will join his brother there.


    “I would say I would hold out pretty long for (an Ohio State offer),” Hartline said. “I want to see how high I am on their list. ... I have a good feeling and I hope something comes soon. ... I would hold out for Ohio State, Notre Dame and Michigan for a long time. How could you go wrong with any of those three?”
  8. Highstreet

    Highstreet Freshman

    Great article 3...
  9. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    I guess its hard to criticize a kid for saying what he feels.
    In all honesty, even though I dont play football, it was a huge factor in my decision
    to attend tOSU, as I grew up a buckeye fan with both parents attending tOSU.
    However, he needs to realize football can only get you so far, and thankfully JT
    is just the man to help him realize that.

    Out of curiosity, when is the Ohio State camp? Im guessing spring sometime, but any dates??
  10. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    Here's another article that ran a few days previous. I didn't realize this one didn't get posted in this thread. As I've stated previously, anyone should feel free to move (copy/paste) any article you find listed in the daily "Recruiting News" threads into the appropriate thread for individual players. After doing the different news searches, I simply don't have the time to move all the different news stories to their related player threads.

    Hartline impressed by Notre Dame visit
    Tuesday, March 8, 2005
    By TODD PORTER Repository sports writer

    PLAIN TWP. — It might have been something Charlie Weis learned as a young assistant football coach in South Carolina.

    Hospitality. Charm.

    Maybe it was the aura of Notre Dame that helped win over GlenOak quarterback Mike Hartline. The Golden Eagle junior is one of the top quarterbacks in Ohio. He recently finished recruiting trips to Purdue and Notre Dame.

    The junior days he attended started the serious recruiting process.

    How much impact can a junior day visit have? Enough to juggle the 6-foot-6 right hander’s top three.

    Purdue was bad. Notre Dame and Weis, the new Irish coach, were awesome.

    “Purdue was a disappointment,” Hartline said. “I thought I was going to get more out of it. I didn’t get to hang out with my position coach, and neither did (GlenOak offensive lineman Ryan Palmer). I didn’t get to see much of the campus other than the indoor facility, the stadium and the weight room and every place has that. There wasn’t much one-on-one communication going on.”

    College teams are shopping themselves to Hartline. Giving recruits like him individual attention is important. Apparently, Purdue didn’t get the memo.

    “We got introduced to Head Coach Joe Tiller. They showed you statistics and who they’ve coached,” Hartline said. “But they never seemed too personal.

    “ ... They just didn’t show much interest in you. They were like, ‘Here’s this, here’s that and we hope you come here.’ I was expecting a lot more.”

    Tiller has taken the Boilermakers to eight straight bowls, a streak matched by only seven other schools. The Boilermakers are 62-36 in Tiller’s eight seasons with a Big Ten championship, the school’s first since 1967.

    But neither Tiller or anyone else in West Lafayette, Ind., made a connection with Hartline.

    Before the visits, Hartline’s top three — in no particular order — were Michigan, Ohio State and Purdue. Now?

    “Purdue isn’t in there,” he said. “I’d have to say it’s Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State. There isn’t an order to them, but that’s my top three. ... First impressions are everything and Purdue didn’t make a good first impression.”

    Notre Dame, on the other hand, swept Hartline off his feet.

    “Notre Dame was a big surprise with Coach Weis,” Hartline said. “There was more one-on-one communication with the position coach. I went there last year with my brother (Brian) for his junior day and it was a 180-degree turn with what Coach Weis is doing. We were blown away by Notre Dame and it all goes to what Coach Weis is doing and his dedication to the program.”

    Weis resigned as the offensive coordinator of the Super Bowl-champion Patriots to take over the Irish program. He graduated from South Bend in 1978 and is considered one of the game’s best passing game coaches.

    At junior day, Weis had players on the team there to greet and shake hands with the junior visitors. When the group ate lunch, the Notre Dame cheerleaders and band were there to play music.

    He handed each recruit a packet of information that highlighted each position coach.

    “His coaching staff, bar none, is one of the best in the country,” Hartline said. “Each coach has something special about him. ... The band, cheerleaders and player, that was all awesome. Coach Weis gave it to you straight-forward. He made it clear what kind of player he wants. He had it organized. He had a plan. That was a big difference.”

    Hartline, at 16, is making a decision that will directly impact the next four or five years of his life, and indirectly impact his entire future. NFL teams draft players with whom they fall in love.

    Hartline might have found that in South Bend a couple weeks ago.
  11. bucknut11

    bucknut11 Defense still wins Championships

    Not sure where Porter came up with that idea. That's not even close to being accurate. Oh well...

    EDIT: maybe he's just saying that OSU is just interested in bringing in only 1 QB and that the later ones would not get scholly offers because we've fulfilled needs. That'd make sense. I still tend to think we'll take 2 QBs this year and none next year, FWIW. (Hakes and Hartline)
  12. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    Id also like to see us take two.
    But I think JT said during his signing day presser that they only want 1 qb this year.
  13. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Meyer is back. Deal with it Florida.



    From the Notre Dame site.........Hartline was impressed with NDs Junior day. He plans on camping at Rutgers for the Blue Chip camp (May 2), he also going to attend the Elite 11 tryout in Michigan and the Nike camp. Also going to attend spring practice at OSU, Michigan and Notre Dame.

    Notre Dame feels that an offer from OSU would be hard for Mike to turn down.
  14. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Notre Dame would be correct.
  15. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    this goes deeper than you know. It seems there are 2 ohio qb's lobbying for ND offers to try and force the hand of osu.

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