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FF advice

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by jwinslow, Nov 2, 2009.

  1. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    We start: QB WR WR WR RB RB W/R TE D K

    This is a keeper league. I can keep two:
    DeAngelo kept for 8th
    White kept for 7th
    Gore draft 1st
    Romo draft 4th
    Manningham waiver wire
    Favre waiver wire

    My lineup:

    QB Favre
    WR White
    WR Boldin
    WR Manningham
    RB Gore
    RB DeAngelo
    W/R Kev Smith
    TE Gonzalez
    D Tennessee (situational add/drop)
    K Folk

    Bench QB: Romo, McNabb, Young
    Bench RB: Taylor, Coffee
    Bench WR; Holmes, Cribbs

    I want: better WRs. Most league teams with good wrs already have equal/better qb(s) than mine, except for 1:

    QB Ryan
    WR Wayne
    WR Moss
    WR Welker
    RB Turner
    RB R Williams
    W/R Moreno
    TE Shiancoe
    D Denver
    K Crosby

    Bench Buffalo, Harvin, Crabtree, Knox, Mason, Sproles, Bush


    Trade I'd like to propose:

    QB/Cribbs for Harvin/Crabtree


    Am I giving up too much? Not getting enough? I feel like it's a gamble, but one that could pay off and I can afford to make with my other qbs.

    If it's a good plan, which QB would you dump? All three have tough playoff stretches.


    For years, this league has started 2 qbs (which is challenging). Of course, the year they moved to 1 (which I prefer), I have 3 great qbs :lol:
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2009
  2. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Hmmm...he's got Ryan, so you're going to have to offer a legit starter probably for him to bite. So, I'd say dump Romo if you want a trade. Do you get ST yards/TDs for individual guys? If not, then Cribbs (and Harvin, for that matter) doesn't buy anyone much really. If you really want to pull the trigger (and don't get ST TDs for individuals), then maybe Romo and Manningham for Crabtree and Knox/Harvin? Harvin and Knox both return kicks and have TDs doing so, but if they don't matter, then they both are options, though not first options, in the passing game. Honestly, I think it would be a more equal trade to go Romo/Manningham for Welker/Knox or Harvin, but since they aren't desperate for a QB, I doubt they'd bite on that.

    As for your keepers, looks like Williams and White in a no-brainer...Gore is too injury prone as a keeper at the 1 to me.
     
  3. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    No yards, just tds for ST. Cribbs is just a throw-in really, he's my worst player (since Taylor can do nice things if/when Peterson goes down).

    Do you think they'd go for Romo/Cribbs - Harvin/Crabtree?

    I thought about dumping Holmes, but I can't afford to let go of any wrs at this point. Mike Wallace really spoiled that draf tpick.

    I don't trust Romo at all. They have a great running game and he can disappear for weeks. If Favre & McNabb stay healthy, I trust those two a lot more.

    Obviously Williams is a lock (barring injury), I brought up keepers because Harvin or Romo could have solid value at the end of the year, and that's a factor - albeit minor - in this trade brainstorming. I probably keep the same two though, unless Mario steps up big time.
     
  4. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    I bet they would go for that...especially if you want to dump Romo.
     
  5. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    I tried Welker/Crabtree, they wouldn't go for that. They start harvin more often than welker, I might try again after this week, they have 2 starting WRs out on byes.
     
  6. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Junior

    I need some thoughts on who I should hold onto in my keeper league. There are quite a few good running backs going back into the draft this year because we can only keep them for 3 years (this will be year 4). Standard keeper rules apply--if you keep someone in a particular round, that person replaces your pick for the round. The first two keepers are free, the third costs $5.

    My no-brainer is keeping Aaron Rodgers with a 13th round pick.

    I'm on the fence about the following 3:

    Knowshon Moreno - 3rd Round
    Donald Brown - 7th Round
    Jerome Harrison - 16th Round


    I have ruled out keeping the following (feel free to let me know if you think I should keep any of these people):

    Santonio Holmes - 3rd (4 game suspension)
    Bernard Berrian - 5th
    Greg Olsen - 6th
    Fred Jackson 9th
    NYG Defense 10th
    Glen Coffee 11th
    Brady Quinn 12th
    Patrick Crayton 15th

    I finished in 2nd place last year, so I will have the 2nd to last pick in the 3rd round. My concern is that most of the good running backs will be gone by then, and Moreno might be a good value there, if he can stay healthy.

    Edit - I should have mentioned that all picks from the first 2 rounds automatically go back into the draft each year.
     
  7. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Moreno is a human injury magnet...no way I would blow a 3rd on him. Harrison with a 16th seems like a no-lose proposition to me...if he has a couple of huge games, or if Hardesty gets hurt...he's your guy. Brown is also good with a 7th, though he still appears to be 2nd in the pecking order...for now, anyway.

    The rest I would let go...Coffee retired, Jackson is hurt, Olsen will be a bust this year, and you can get better in the 5th than Berrian.
     
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  8. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Junior

    Thanks for the input. I was leaning towards keeping Brown over Moreno because he's a much better value in the 7th, especially because I think they will throw to him out of the backfield quite a bit. I took Moreno that early last year as a bit of a reach, and also because a lot of the best backs in the league were keepers on other teams. Harrison with a 16th makes a lot of sense, especially in a league where we can start 2 RBs and a flex player.

    I'll look tomorrow at what running backs are going back into the draft and which are being kept, but hopefully there will be some better options than Moreno available in the 3rd round.

    On a side note, my league added a few wrinkles to our format that I think will improve things. We added a little bit to the entry fee and added the $5 fee for the 3rd keeper so we could have a $10 payout to the person with the highest point total each week. That way, if someone is out of the running by the 8th or 9th week, it still keeps them interested if their shitty team puts up a really high score one week. Also, we decided to give a $50 payout to the regular season champion since the playoffs can be such a crapshoot. One bad week can erase an entire season of good drafting and team management. That's neither here nor there, but I just thought I'd share in case any of you were looking for ways to keep people in your leagues interested.
     
  9. I'd keep Harrison or Brown.

    The Colts are not intending to pay Addai very much on his next contract, so unless he has a huge start to the season expect Brown to end up the featured back, or very close to it, buy the midpoint of the season.

    Stay away from Moreno, like it was said before, he's an injury magnet.
     
  10. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Junior

    Here's the trouble:

    I need to draft a featured back, and I draft 11th in the first round. The following running backs (ranked higher than Moreno) will not be avaiable due to other teams keeping them:

    Chris Johnson
    Michael Turner
    Ray Rice
    DeAngelo Williams
    Cedric Benson
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Shonn Greene
    Jamaal Charles
    Beanie Wells
    Ronnie Brown
    LeSean McCoy
    Jonathon Stewart

    So the only RBs ranked ahead of Moreno that are still available to take at all are:

    Adrian Peterson - will be gone by my pick
    MJD - gone
    Frank Gore - gone
    Steven Jackson - gone
    Ryan Grant
    Ryan Mathews
    Pierre Thomas
    Joseph Addai

    And those last 4 will most likely be gone by the 3rd round, anyway. So in a normal draft, Moreno would be a huge reach in the 3rd round, but in this keeper league, it's almost a given that he'll be gone by then. It sounds crazy, but after looking at all the running backs that won't be available, I'm leaning towards keeping Moreno with a late 3rd rounder.
     
  11. powerlifter

    powerlifter ▪█───────█

    I'd rather have Addai then Moreno. Moreno will more then likely be hit and miss with injuries. I wouldn't take Moreno high (probably the only way i'd take him at all is being high) Not to mention JM's offense isn't going to be putting up big numbers anytime soon. Might be worth looking into Ahmad Bradshaw if you can steal him imo..I picked him up pretty late. Jacobs just isn't what he was. Bradshaw runs hard
     
  12. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Christ he already has a hamstring injury that might keep him out the rest of the preseason. I can't even imagine you would want to blow a 3rd rounder on that. I see what you're saying, completely, but hell I drafted 12/12 in my pay league last year and won it by starting with receivers and getting a good QB. You can probably get an elite QB or an elite receiver in round 3, or at the very least Gates or whatever TE you want. I don't think RBs are nearly the must-haves in rounds 1-3 that they used to be, with the obvious guys being the exceptions of course...I won that other league with Phillip Rivers, Andre Johnson, and late round gems with Shiancoe and Steve Smith (NYG). My RBs were average at best, and I picked up Jamaal Charles on the waiver wire halfway through the season to take me home. Your team bro, I just hate to see you get roped with a guy who tears a muscle picking up the phone.
     
  13. Piney

    Piney Stay thirsty my friends Former Game Champion

    Brown or Harrison is the smart play. And in today's NFL fantasy leagues you DON'T need a franchise running back (as long as you have a normal scoring system)

    And Moreno isn't good enough to even be considered a franchise running back (for fantasy). Stack up on stud WRs and then take a bunch of late RBs and see if you'll hit gold. You are more likely to hit gold on a late RB than Moreno being worth that 3rd rounder.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2010
  14. Mr_Burns

    Mr_Burns Junior

    Alright, you all have successfully convinced me to pass on Moreno. I'll let you know how things shake out--the draft is Friday.

    Thanks again for the input.
     
  15. Mr.Blonde

    Mr.Blonde Pacific Northwest Correspondent

    This is quality advise right here.
    Take a Felix Jones, Jahvid Best, Arian Foster and load up on WR's.,
     

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