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  • I am always curious when people talk about finding peace or making peace with a situation or scenario. It was said/wished that the young ladies that had their lives/worlds totally ripped apart might now be able to find peace that Castro committed suicide.

    I ask how does one find peace? When you find it how do you know that you have found it? Will one recognize peace when they see it? In church it is said that we should share the peace with each other to which is said "May peace be with you". How does peace go with someone and how do you share it?

    Tell me more, if you have found it,about this Peace.
     
    “Nothing external to you has any power over you.”
    Ralph Waldo Emerson

    or;
    There are things we can control.
    And things we can't control.
    Understand the things we can't control and let them go. ( an accident)
    Get up off your ass and change the things you can control! (your job, a relationship, you)
     
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    I have experienced the peace that is spoken about in a church setting. I've also experienced it during walks, athletic events, work experiences, etc. I can't say that there's any one way to go about it that is best or most assured; however, when it comes to defining it... I would say that this book helped me get a perspective that was devoid of religious considerations.

    http://www.amazon.com/Flow-The-Psychology-Optimal-Experience/dp/0061339202

    You'll note that my sig is from the author.

    It's a depth of involvement/concentration/effort/etc. Some might say it's meditative. Personally, if I focus, I can get it.

    Just some thoughts.
     
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    Peace is a quest but also a blessing. I echo Mali except I would add true peace is usually found amidst calamity all around.

    A relaxed moment is pleasant but lacks the depth of those active pursuits of peace and surrender when everything around you and inside of you is in chaos.
     
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    Peace is a quest but also a blessing. I echo Mali except I would add true peace is usually found amidst calamity all around.

    A relaxed moment is pleasant but lacks the depth of those active pursuits of peace and surrender when everything around you and inside of you is in chaos.
    So what I hear folks saying is that peace is a "state of mind" and one that is attained differently according to the individual. It appears to be a pursuit of an undefined proposition, yet once obtained peace is something that will be understood.
     
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    I found this and thought I would share.....enjoy

    SOMETHING TO PONDER: George Carlin

    George Carlin's wife died early in 2008 and George followed her, dying in July 2008. It is ironic George Carlin - comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent and so very appropriate. An observation by George Carlin:

    The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

    We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

    We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

    We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.

    We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

    These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.

    Remember to spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.

    Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

    Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

    Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.

    Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.

    Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

    And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

    George Carlin
     
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    I am always curious when people talk about finding peace or making peace with a situation or scenario. It was said/wished that the young ladies that had their lives/worlds totally ripped apart might now be able to find peace that Castro committed suicide.

    I ask how does one find peace? When you find it how do you know that you have found it? Will one recognize peace when they see it? In church it is said that we should share the peace with each other to which is said "May peace be with you". How does peace go with someone and how do you share it?

    Tell me more, if you have found it,about this Peace.
    For me, finding peace was coming to accept things. What I mean is, accepting things that caused me to be upset emotionally - chaotic or not. For example, a couple years ago I went through an extremely difficult time in my personal life. I won't get into the specifics, but I was quite upset, daily. What I came to realize as I worked through the acute problem I was having, was that there was an even greater issue within myself that I had been oblivious to. So, for that, there were "two peaces" I had to reach. One was coming to accept the reality of the acute issue without an emotional.. let me say, overbearing, emotional attachment to it. That emotion might have been sadness, pain, anger.. whatever (and frankly, it was all those things and more). But, now, now that I'm at peace, I think about that time in my life and I am "at peace" It doesn't make me mad. It doesn't make me sad. I'm not in pain any longer. Now - that's different than being happy about it. Again - what happened to me.. and without getting into the specifics - .. it doesn't make me happy. But, I'm at peace with it. It happened. And I can see it with a clear mind... if that makes sense.

    The other peace was coming to terms with things within my own psychology. I used to be very proud of myself for believing "I don't lie to myself" and it turns out, that was bullshit. I lied to myself ALL the time - and I coped with that (on some level, deep down, I knew I was lying to myself creating a cognitive dissonance that literally manifested itself physically) by creating a narrative about me - to me (A self replicating problem, as you can see). I had to come to peace with myself. To do that, I had to finally admit the things about me that I had tried so desperately to hide from my own damn self. For me, personally - and with my own psychology - obtaining peace meant facing the demons I had subconsciously ignored. Admitting to myself that I really feel this way about things and I damn well know it. I had to admit some things that I really didn't want to admit. But - and again, this was fueled by my own psychology - I came to realize it was OK to feel that way... that I didn't have to be liked, at my own expense.. that I had no control over how people feel about me. But.. I DO have control over how I feel about me.

    Once I realized it was OK to be me.. I mean.. to really understand that and know it... I felt "peace"

    The cognitive dissonance was gone. The pain was gone. And I felt like me again. I could breathe easy. I didn't worry about shit I couldn't control.

    Peace... I think.. is self actualization.
     
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    I found this and thought I would share.....enjoy

    SOMETHING TO PONDER: George Carlin

    George Carlin's wife died early in 2008 and George followed her, dying in July 2008. It is ironic George Carlin - comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent and so very appropriate. An observation by George Carlin:

    The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

    We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

    We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

    We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.

    We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

    These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.

    Remember to spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.

    Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

    Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

    Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you.

    Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.

    Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

    And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

    George Carlin

    I knew something didn't seem right when I read "...and pray too seldom" which didn't sound anything like something Carlin would say, so I looked up on Snopes and sure enough, Carlin didn't write this and even referred to this essay as "a sappy load of shit" (which sounds exactly like something Carlin would say).

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/paradox.asp
     
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    I don't know that there is a prescribed way that one "sees" someone else who is at peace. For me, frankly, it's much easier to identify people who are not at peace than it is to see people who are. And, that said, I do tend to recognize people who are not at peace who deal with the world in the same manner I used to. I used to be pissed about everything - life was a series of "this sucks" "fuck this.." "I hate it when" etc.. I mean, I use this example.. when I cut someone off on the road - well.. I just made a mistake.. but, if someone cut me off? Well, that was the stupidest motherfucker out there.... on some level he had it out for me.. which, of course is absurd.

    I don't know.. interesting thread, dude..
     
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