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Fisher COB - what's up?

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by HelpIsOntheWay, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. our college of business has been steadily dropping in the rankings after peaking around 2002/2003. in these global MBA rankings we dropped from 39 to seventy-something in three years....what's going on over there?

  2. MolGenBuckeye

    MolGenBuckeye Senior

    I don't know if this is still the case, but here's my observation from 2000. The classrooms had cupholders at each seat, and signs in the front of the room that said "No Food or Drink Allowed".

    I'm pretty sure that's the issue here.
  3. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    big drop... mid 40's the last couple of eyars... now at 79. I hope it was a one time thing, and the numbers will be back to where they were the last couple of years...
  4. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Maybe it has to do with them pumping out WAY too many MBA's the last few years.
  5. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence

    Check out who is voting and what they are voting for.
    We had a thread like this awhile ago.

    If your school is not top ten then the rest really does not matter.
    I am of the opinion that the MBA has almost become the norm as a Bachelors degree was when I graduated.

    I have also gone on record as saying some of the dumbest SOB's I have worked for and with had MBA's, from top schools.

    If you can get into a top school, odds are you would be successful in life anyway. The MBA is just a confirmation.

    Where you at Dixie?
  6. buckeyegrad

    buckeyegrad Don't Immanentize the Eschaton Staff Member

    Agreed that you have to look at who is doing the ranking and what criteria they are using. In the USNews & World Report rankings our MBA program has been consistently ranked in the mid-20s over the past seven years.

    A few years ago, the Wall Street Journal had us at 14th; however, the Journal has an extreme east-coast bias (they had Stanford ranked around 50th, even though it is easily one of the top 10 if not top 5 programs in the country).

    If you look at the big picture, our MBA program is in the second-tier of national schools. We are a step under the very best schools like Harvard, Wharton, and Kellogg; but we are competitive with schools outside these very elite ones.

    As for the deluge of MBAs we are seeing, I believe it is going to result in the creation of three-year, certified MBA programs. My fiancee graduated from Ashland with her MBA in 2003 and was one of 2 students from her school to participate in an experimental cMBA test. I have also heard rumors of Case Western considering the creation of a three-year Doctor of Business program.
  7. FOREIGNERS-if you cant speak the language its a shade hard to survive in the business world
  8. NorthShoreBuck

    NorthShoreBuck True Madness Requires Significant Intelligence


    I am not surprised.
    The MBA craze has been a cash bonanza for the graduate schools.
    The school I attended had an Executive program with a over supply of applicants.
    They opened an international MBA.
    They started an MBA for health care executives.
    Add another year and it looks like you are upping the anty but in reality you are getting another $25,000 from the students.

    The MBA is not the silver bullet it was and if not top ten then you really have to consider why you are doing it. Then again it will be the basic standard as the BS was years ago so all you are doing is keeping up, not getting ahead.
  9. buckeyegrad

    buckeyegrad Don't Immanentize the Eschaton Staff Member

    You hit the nail on the head. Every college and university in the country wants an MBA program because it is a big revenue maker for the institution.

    My future brother-in-law received one of those International MBAs and it was a complete joke. He payed almost twice as much for it as my fiancee did for her MBA because of the "International" title. The result was a watered-down curriculum jammed into one-year, which translates into no long-term retention. Sure he spent 6 weeks in Europe with the program, but all they did was tour European companies and factories. He even admits it was a complete waste of time and $$.
  10. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    An MBA for health care exec's is called an MHA. It is a two year program totally seperate from the MBA. You can do an MBA/MHA sequence and get both degrees, however it takes three years instead of the two years an MBA or MHA is on it's own.

    Be careful with MHA's most are not accredited. (as an example, only three univerities in Ohio have accredited MHA programs... BW, OSU, and XU... however there are bunch of Ohio universities that offer the degree... a nonaccredited degree is worthless IMO).

    I agree that the program (MBA) is all about $$$. However any more you need one because everybody else has one. It might not put you ahead having one, but you could argrue those without one are behind the eightball without one. With that said I don't have one, and don't know if I'll get one (if I do it will be part time), so do as I say not as I do :tongue2:
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2005
  11. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    what the fuck is this smart talk going on in the open discussion room? nobodys toaster interupts when theres an MBA thread going on?
  12. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    Haven't seen or heard from the toaster since he went up against the KitchenAid Mixer...
  13. there's no doubt that going to a wharton or harvard or chicago pays off the second you graduate in a big way. but what if you make say $70K and you're considering going to grad school....the averagea starting salary from OSU MBA (and other comparables) was something like $85K. so why would i blow all my cash and time to gain $15K per year when i can probably do that by waiting a little and finding a new job w/higher pay?

    that's kinda where i'm at now...getting pressured to go to grad school, but i don't think i can get into a top program...but i can definitiely get into an OSU or Uof I. what about cornell? it's just barely a top 25 school....i wonder if that's worth going to w/re to getting guaranteed $90K straight out of there.
  14. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Do you like your current job?
  15. Piney

    Piney Stay thirsty my friends Former Game Champion

    The scary thing is I know why the MBA numbers have shot through the roof and you can blame the fucking Accountants (like myself). In 1999 to be elgible to take the CPA Exam you had to have a masters in Accounting. Opening up every accounting major to be forced to get an MBA. I can also bet other majors and associations after graduation is forcing more and more people into the MBA program to get any accreditation they require for their profession.

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