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Wrong glass, Sir.
Mere hours after Dan Mullen's rant demanding a full stadium of 90K at Gator football games, UF has suspended all football activities after 19 positive tests. And apparently, they may have had a positive player play on Saturday. Best get your ass on down to the clinic, aggy.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...0201013-54uhxmg57rfura5lpgt5h5lnri-story.html
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...0201013-54uhxmg57rfura5lpgt5h5lnri-story.html
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Dabo Swinney and Dan Mullen Are Just Concerned About the Sanctity of the College Football Playoffs, You Guys
Dan Mullen and Dabo Swinney don't think Ohio State should be in the College Football Playoffs because they haven't played enough games this year. And who can blame them?
History has shown that the more data we have on a team, the less we will complain about that team, which is why this has been the only year in the history of the College Football Playoffs where there has been any kind of controversy regarding the playoff rankings.
To this point, Ohio State has played just five games on the season, with a sixth hopefully coming next week. Meanwhile, Swinney's Clemson squad and Mullen's Florida crew are both preparing for the 11th game on their respective schedules next week.
You can understand why both would have issues with the Buckeyes getting the benefit of the doubt while playing half the games of the Tigers and the Gators.
How are we supposed to know how good this OSU team is while seeing so few games and having so little data? And please don't tell me that Ohio State is winning games by an average of 23 points and that they were favored by over 30 points in the games that were canceled. That's not data, those are statistics.
And besides, as the Gators showed everyone on Saturday, being favored is the easiest way to get upset!
After Florida's quality loss at home to LSU last night, Mullen was asked about a possible two-loss SEC Champion deserving a spot in the College Football Playoff.
"I don't have a vote on that. I'm not in the room," he said. "I know we've played 10 games, right? I guess the best thing to do would have been to play less games because you seem to get rewarded for not playing this year."
It's hard to disagree with him. Because while the Big Ten was being distracted by a pandemic, the SEC was playing football. And while Big Ten teams were canceling games because they didn't feel like they could play them safely, the SEC was sending 54 LSU players into Gainesville as sacrificial lambs.
The fact that Florida was willing to take on a Tiger team facing such odds is a testament to their willingness to provide necessary data to the playoff committee, and that should be rewarded.
My favorite thing to watch in college football this year is when Florida breaks their team huddle before each game and they shout "For the data that we can provide to the Committee!"....
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Look, I realize on the outside it can seem like Mullen and Swinney are just trying to keep Ohio State out of the playoffs for their own selfish benefit, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
They just want to see teams like Florida and Texas A&M rewarded for playing games, win or lose, because that's always been the purpose of the College Football Playoffs.
The Committee can scream it to the mountaintops that their job is to select the four best teams to play in the playoffs, but how can you know if a team is truly any good unless they have losses like Clemson, Florida, and Texas A&M do? You can't!
And even if Ohio State played 13 games this season and won them all, that just means they still didn't play enough games to have a quality loss, and there's no way you can reward a team for playing such a weak schedule, even during a pandemic.
So Buckeye fans, please cut Dabo Swinney and Dan Mullen some slack. This isn't about Ohio State and never has been about Ohio State.
It's simply about providing enough data to the playoff committee so that they can then go and make a sound decision against Ohio State.
Entire article: https://buckeyescoop.com/page/blog/...-of-the-college-football-playoffs-you-guys-3/
And this guy (Tony Gerdeman) in a paid writer on Buckeye Scoop....
Dan Mullen and Dabo Swinney don't think Ohio State should be in the College Football Playoffs because they haven't played enough games this year. And who can blame them?
History has shown that the more data we have on a team, the less we will complain about that team, which is why this has been the only year in the history of the College Football Playoffs where there has been any kind of controversy regarding the playoff rankings.
To this point, Ohio State has played just five games on the season, with a sixth hopefully coming next week. Meanwhile, Swinney's Clemson squad and Mullen's Florida crew are both preparing for the 11th game on their respective schedules next week.
You can understand why both would have issues with the Buckeyes getting the benefit of the doubt while playing half the games of the Tigers and the Gators.
How are we supposed to know how good this OSU team is while seeing so few games and having so little data? And please don't tell me that Ohio State is winning games by an average of 23 points and that they were favored by over 30 points in the games that were canceled. That's not data, those are statistics.
And besides, as the Gators showed everyone on Saturday, being favored is the easiest way to get upset!
After Florida's quality loss at home to LSU last night, Mullen was asked about a possible two-loss SEC Champion deserving a spot in the College Football Playoff.
"I don't have a vote on that. I'm not in the room," he said. "I know we've played 10 games, right? I guess the best thing to do would have been to play less games because you seem to get rewarded for not playing this year."
It's hard to disagree with him. Because while the Big Ten was being distracted by a pandemic, the SEC was playing football. And while Big Ten teams were canceling games because they didn't feel like they could play them safely, the SEC was sending 54 LSU players into Gainesville as sacrificial lambs.
The fact that Florida was willing to take on a Tiger team facing such odds is a testament to their willingness to provide necessary data to the playoff committee, and that should be rewarded.
My favorite thing to watch in college football this year is when Florida breaks their team huddle before each game and they shout "For the data that we can provide to the Committee!"....
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continued
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Look, I realize on the outside it can seem like Mullen and Swinney are just trying to keep Ohio State out of the playoffs for their own selfish benefit, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
They just want to see teams like Florida and Texas A&M rewarded for playing games, win or lose, because that's always been the purpose of the College Football Playoffs.
The Committee can scream it to the mountaintops that their job is to select the four best teams to play in the playoffs, but how can you know if a team is truly any good unless they have losses like Clemson, Florida, and Texas A&M do? You can't!
And even if Ohio State played 13 games this season and won them all, that just means they still didn't play enough games to have a quality loss, and there's no way you can reward a team for playing such a weak schedule, even during a pandemic.
So Buckeye fans, please cut Dabo Swinney and Dan Mullen some slack. This isn't about Ohio State and never has been about Ohio State.
It's simply about providing enough data to the playoff committee so that they can then go and make a sound decision against Ohio State.
Entire article: https://buckeyescoop.com/page/blog/...-of-the-college-football-playoffs-you-guys-3/
And this guy (Tony Gerdeman) in a paid writer on Buckeye Scoop....
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
SKULL SESSION: URBAN MEYER RESPONDS TO DABO SWINNEY, DAN MULLEN IS THE SOREST OF LOSERS, AND PAT FITZGERALD IS A DELIGHT
HOW TO MAKE AN ASS OUT OF YOURSELF. Somehow, losing to an atrocious LSU team that only had 50 scholarship players was not the most embarrassing thing Dan Mullen did this week, thanks to his press conferences.
The funniest part about this complaint is that the SEC has been playing fewer conference games than any other Power Five conference since forever in favor of late-season games against FCS opponents (read: chickenshit Saturday). And now they're worried about a competitive advantage from playing fewer games.
This would be like Urban Meyer blaming an extra conference game for Ohio State's 2015 loss to Michigan State. How do you think that would have gone over?
And more than any of this, if you don't think Ryan Day would trade schedules with Florida in a heartbeat and give his team more game reps to actually improve and work some things out, you're not living in reality.
But therein lies the problem – Mullen does not seem to live in the same realm of reality as we do because he's out here arguing with a straight face that his player accidentally threw an opponent's shoe as "part of the football move."
“He made the tackle,” Mullen said during a teleconference with reporters to preview Saturday’s SEC title game against No. 1 Alabama. “Part of the football move, the kid’s shoe is in his hand. He kind of threw it and jumped and celebrated with his teammates.
“It’s pretty unfortunate in that situation. I don’t think there was any intent to taunt, and there wasn’t — it’s not like he was throwing it at their sideline or doing any of that."
That seems... unlikely. So let's check the tape.
In case you need a frame-by-frame breakdown...
At least it was a good throw?
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-the-sorest-of-losers-and-pat-fitzgerald-is-a
HOW TO MAKE AN ASS OUT OF YOURSELF. Somehow, losing to an atrocious LSU team that only had 50 scholarship players was not the most embarrassing thing Dan Mullen did this week, thanks to his press conferences.
The funniest part about this complaint is that the SEC has been playing fewer conference games than any other Power Five conference since forever in favor of late-season games against FCS opponents (read: chickenshit Saturday). And now they're worried about a competitive advantage from playing fewer games.
This would be like Urban Meyer blaming an extra conference game for Ohio State's 2015 loss to Michigan State. How do you think that would have gone over?
And more than any of this, if you don't think Ryan Day would trade schedules with Florida in a heartbeat and give his team more game reps to actually improve and work some things out, you're not living in reality.
But therein lies the problem – Mullen does not seem to live in the same realm of reality as we do because he's out here arguing with a straight face that his player accidentally threw an opponent's shoe as "part of the football move."
“He made the tackle,” Mullen said during a teleconference with reporters to preview Saturday’s SEC title game against No. 1 Alabama. “Part of the football move, the kid’s shoe is in his hand. He kind of threw it and jumped and celebrated with his teammates.
“It’s pretty unfortunate in that situation. I don’t think there was any intent to taunt, and there wasn’t — it’s not like he was throwing it at their sideline or doing any of that."
That seems... unlikely. So let's check the tape.
In case you need a frame-by-frame breakdown...
At least it was a good throw?
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...-the-sorest-of-losers-and-pat-fitzgerald-is-a
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I don’t think that was a ‘football move’ with the shoe. The SEC replay official saw the same number of steps as the Clemson receiver had before he lost the football last year, so obviously not a football move.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
EVERYTHING FLORIDA LOST IN THE FOG
In the aftermath of a foggy Florida fiasco, The Dash takes stock of everything the Gators left behind at Florida Field in a stunning upset loss to LSU on Saturday night.
A College Football Playoff bid. Unless the Gators put on a display the likes of which college football has rarely seen and smash Alabama on Saturday in the SEC championship game, their path to the playoff is closed. There has never been a two-loss playoff team, and this doesn’t seem like the year to start—not when one of Florida’s defeats was as a 24-point home favorite to a 4–5 LSU team. This was, by every metric, a bad loss. So the gap between 2008 and present day grows a little longer in Gainesville.
Marco Wilson’s impulse control. College-aged men—athletes and nonathletes—do dumb things. They don’t think about consequences for actions. Almost all of them will screw up a time or two. Fortunately for most of us, those screw-ups aren’t on national television with a major football game hanging in the balance. Poor Marco Wilson wasn’t so lucky. Millions of people saw the junior Florida safety’s brainlock moment, and millions will remember it. The Taming of the Shrew was a Shakespearian comedy; The Throwing of the Shoe is a football tragedy.
Dan Mullen’s perspective—again. If you want compelling evidence that the pandemic is making some smart people lose their minds, Mullen seems like a good place to start. He’s coached well (as usual) in 2020, but he sure hasn’t comported himself well. There was the time he helped escalate a bench-clearing altercation with Missouri, then walked to the locker room throwing his arms in the air like a wrestling heel. There was postgame petulance after the loss at Texas A&M, which led to a call to “pack the Swamp” for Florida’s next home game. And there was more postgame excuse-making Saturday night, when Mullen opined that "the best thing to do would have been to play less games because you seem to get rewarded for not playing this year.” Actually, Dan, the best thing to do is to beat bad teams when you play them.
But Mullen wasn’t done there. On Sunday, he tried to rationalize Wilson’s chucking of Kole Taylor’s cleat. “He made the tackle,” Mullen said. “I mean, part of the football move, the kid’s shoe was in his hand. He kind of threw it, jumped and celebrated with his teammates. I don’t think there was any intent to taunt. … It was a huge play, possibly a game-winning play. Threw a shoe, went to celebrate with his teammates. Unfortunately, it was a penalty.”
Yes, it certainly was a penalty. And no, it certainly was not a football move. It was a live-in-infamy move.
Kyle Trask’s Heisman Trophy. Could the senior quarterback still win the award? Certainly. But he likely did some damage to his perceived front-runner status. (BetOnline has moved Alabama’s Mac Jones to the top of its odds board.) This was Trask’s lowest pass efficiency game of the season (151.94); his first multi-interception game of the season (two of those, plus a lost fumble, all in the first half); and his fewest touchdown passes of the season (two). And all this was against the No. 13 pass defense in the SEC, which was also missing its best cornerback in Derek Stingley Jr.
Trask’s pass efficiency rating for the season trails national leader Jones, Justin Fields of Ohio State (in half the games) and BYU’s Zach Wilson. All those QBs are in Heisman contention. But Trask can put his LSU performance out of mind quickly with a big game against the Crimson Tide in Atlanta.
Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/14/florida-loss-lsu-college-football-playoff-update
In the aftermath of a foggy Florida fiasco, The Dash takes stock of everything the Gators left behind at Florida Field in a stunning upset loss to LSU on Saturday night.
A College Football Playoff bid. Unless the Gators put on a display the likes of which college football has rarely seen and smash Alabama on Saturday in the SEC championship game, their path to the playoff is closed. There has never been a two-loss playoff team, and this doesn’t seem like the year to start—not when one of Florida’s defeats was as a 24-point home favorite to a 4–5 LSU team. This was, by every metric, a bad loss. So the gap between 2008 and present day grows a little longer in Gainesville.
Marco Wilson’s impulse control. College-aged men—athletes and nonathletes—do dumb things. They don’t think about consequences for actions. Almost all of them will screw up a time or two. Fortunately for most of us, those screw-ups aren’t on national television with a major football game hanging in the balance. Poor Marco Wilson wasn’t so lucky. Millions of people saw the junior Florida safety’s brainlock moment, and millions will remember it. The Taming of the Shrew was a Shakespearian comedy; The Throwing of the Shoe is a football tragedy.
Dan Mullen’s perspective—again. If you want compelling evidence that the pandemic is making some smart people lose their minds, Mullen seems like a good place to start. He’s coached well (as usual) in 2020, but he sure hasn’t comported himself well. There was the time he helped escalate a bench-clearing altercation with Missouri, then walked to the locker room throwing his arms in the air like a wrestling heel. There was postgame petulance after the loss at Texas A&M, which led to a call to “pack the Swamp” for Florida’s next home game. And there was more postgame excuse-making Saturday night, when Mullen opined that "the best thing to do would have been to play less games because you seem to get rewarded for not playing this year.” Actually, Dan, the best thing to do is to beat bad teams when you play them.
But Mullen wasn’t done there. On Sunday, he tried to rationalize Wilson’s chucking of Kole Taylor’s cleat. “He made the tackle,” Mullen said. “I mean, part of the football move, the kid’s shoe was in his hand. He kind of threw it, jumped and celebrated with his teammates. I don’t think there was any intent to taunt. … It was a huge play, possibly a game-winning play. Threw a shoe, went to celebrate with his teammates. Unfortunately, it was a penalty.”
Yes, it certainly was a penalty. And no, it certainly was not a football move. It was a live-in-infamy move.
Kyle Trask’s Heisman Trophy. Could the senior quarterback still win the award? Certainly. But he likely did some damage to his perceived front-runner status. (BetOnline has moved Alabama’s Mac Jones to the top of its odds board.) This was Trask’s lowest pass efficiency game of the season (151.94); his first multi-interception game of the season (two of those, plus a lost fumble, all in the first half); and his fewest touchdown passes of the season (two). And all this was against the No. 13 pass defense in the SEC, which was also missing its best cornerback in Derek Stingley Jr.
Trask’s pass efficiency rating for the season trails national leader Jones, Justin Fields of Ohio State (in half the games) and BYU’s Zach Wilson. All those QBs are in Heisman contention. But Trask can put his LSU performance out of mind quickly with a big game against the Crimson Tide in Atlanta.
Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2020/12/14/florida-loss-lsu-college-football-playoff-update
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Florida's penalties include the following:
- A one-year show cause for Mullen. He was prohibited from all off-campus recruiting during the fall 2020 evaluation period and was given a four-day off-campus recruiting ban during the fall 2021 contact period. Mullen was also banned from off-campus recruiting for the first 10 days of the January 2020 recruiting period, was prohibited from off-campus recruiting for 30 days in fall 2019.
- A $5,000 fine for Florida
- One-year probation
- The university was prohibited from recruiting players from the Seattle-area high school from 2019-21.
- A seven-day off campus recruiting ban for the entire staff in spring 2021.
- One-on-one rules education for Mullen and the unnamed assistant coach
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