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Game of Thrones (Official Thread)

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Who will be the final KING of the SEVEN KINGDOMS/IRON THRONE

  • Aegon Targaryen (aka Jon Snow)

    Votes: 11 36.7%

  • Daenerys Targaryen

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Bran Stark

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Gentry Baratheon

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Sansa Stark

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Arya Stark

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Cersei Lannister

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Tyrion Lannister

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Euron Greyjoy

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Gate is closed

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
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Buckeye86 said:
Again, I feel like the writers failed miserably.

They set up Daenerys’s decent into madness all season, relatively well for the most part, and then they just absolutely fail in the most pathetic way to execute it.

And they failed so miserably by making it such a cakewalk to crush the defenses.

The dragon-killing scorpions we’ve been so concerned about are now just completely useless.

The golden company is a total joke. The iron fleet is a total joke (hey, flying the dragons high is a pretty good thing to do, I’m glad we’ve figured that one out).

The numerous lines they’ve thrown in about the odds being back to 50/50 are just completely out the door I guess.

Despite them setting up her decent into madness, Daenerys had absolutely zero trigger to go off - she had just won the easiest possible victory imaginable, there was nothing there to push her over the edge.

They needed Daenerys to be desperate, to be losing, to see Jon about to die or something - and then from that place of desperation to snap and go on her rampage.

And even then, just straight up blasting fire at normal folks in the streets is still a stupid thing to do even in rampage mode. Fly to the Red Keep.

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So, let me get this straight- Jon has to pull his troops back because Daenerys was destroying the city too much for them to continue their attack? I genuinely don’t understand the dynamics there - what happened to the report that the Unsullied had broken into the Red Keep? What happened to the Lannister soldiers surrendering? Why were people even still fighting in the streets? It feels like the issue was 100% Daenerys riding around basically burning her own troops and knocking down buildings for no reason... again, after completely failing to set up why she was triggered to do that.

Bonus notes:

How in the hell did Jaime and Euron end up in the same place? So, so stupid.

Why did Arya leave the Red Keep and not stay with Sandor? As is typical, that completely ignores 7 seasons of character development and feels completely out of character for her. Her character either stays to kill Cersei or stays to help Sandor, or both.

Jaime doesn’t love Cersei anymore, I don’t care what this stupid show tries to set up... their reconnection absolutely ruins his story arc in a horrible way.

The Pompeii scene with Arya in the streets is supposed to be powerful, and visually it is - but it’s another thing that falls completely flat because they failed so miserably to set up why Daenerys would go on a rampage in the first place after easily winning the city and sitting there in victory... and then beyond that just burning up the entire city and her own troops instead of just flying to the Red Keep to confront Cersei.

And then beyond that, why Arya just completely gave up on her mission and her friend, the two most important things to her as set up by the entire show, and was just running around with folks in the streets to even be in that position.

I do not understand what they’re thinking.
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Agree with everything. Cersei is literally there a few seconds later. How do Arya and Hound even get there so late? The two of them should have easily out teleported Jon's army. Jaime got there a whole day earlier than them despite being last to leave.
Where did all the Dothraki and Unsullied come from?
The Mountain was harder to kill than NK.
Why does dragon fire implode buildings now, but 2 episodes ago Jon could hide behind a wall without a single burn?
Iron Fleet goes from 11yr old Halo sniper to stormtroopers depending on the plot gods.
The whole thing was half assed. Pity cuz the cinematography and acting is still on point.
GRRM has to be the big winner... only way to get a real ending is to wait for his books now. Thought the show would kill interest in them, but now they're only closure diehards will get. Not sure ill bother, enough other stuff to read. Same w/ the spin-offs ... not watching premieres, wait and see if any of them arent junk.
 
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So bad I don’t even feel like breaking it down.

But...

1. The idea that the six other kingdoms would pledge to tree boy at all, but especially to stay pledged after they just let the north walk? Yeah, no.

2. So, who exactly was mad at Jon so he couldn’t be king? other than the Iron Isles (and the people who chose to sail to Naath?)... um, FUCK the Iron Isles? Seriously, who gives half a shit about what the Iron Isles think. Was there anyone else against Jon there? (Not to mention the whole mass atrocity thing would probably impact some feelings in the room... nope, I pledged to her, nothing that has happened since then has changed whatsoever, so my by far weakest kingdom is going to singlehandedly prevent Jon from being king.)

That’s about all I have time for, I’ll leave it to some YouTube channels to spend 45+ minutes breaking down the deep, deep depths of suck.

Okay, one more - Arya’s character arc, which was basically forced to be a lone wolf through tragedy but triumphantly returning home and remembering what her father said about the lone wolf dying but the pack surviving... and then she just leaves to sail - something that has NEVER been established in her character- instead of continuing to protect/help her family as they begin their journey as King (regardless of how stupid that is) and Queen respectively?

How is Arya standing at the right hand of her sister in their final shot not an incredibly simple and satifying payoff? I realize they really hammered home that “that’s not her” stuff but being a queensguard isn’t exactly the same thing as being a lady. See: Brienne.
 
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