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Game of Thrones (Official Thread)

Who will be the final KING of the SEVEN KINGDOMS/IRON THRONE

  • Aegon Targaryen (aka Jon Snow)

    Votes: 11 36.7%
  • Daenerys Targaryen

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Bran Stark

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Gentry Baratheon

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Sansa Stark

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Arya Stark

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • Cersei Lannister

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Tyrion Lannister

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Euron Greyjoy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • Gate is closed

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
So bad I don’t even feel like breaking it down.

But...

1. The idea that the six other kingdoms would pledge to tree boy at all, but especially to stay pledged after they just let the north walk? Yeah, no.

2. So, who exactly was mad at Jon so he couldn’t be king? other than the Iron Isles (and the people who chose to sail to Naath?)... um, FUCK the Iron Isles? Seriously, who gives half a shit about what the Iron Isles think. Was there anyone else against Jon there? (Not to mention the whole mass atrocity thing would probably impact some feelings in the room... nope, I pledged to her, nothing that has happened since then has changed whatsoever, so my by far weakest kingdom is going to singlehandedly prevent Jon from being king.)

That’s about all I have time for, I’ll leave it to some YouTube channels to spend 45+ minutes breaking down the deep, deep depths of suck.

Okay, one more - Arya’s character arc, which was basically forced to be a lone wolf through tragedy but triumphantly returning home and remembering what her father said about the lone wolf dying but the pack surviving... and then she just leaves to sail - something that has NEVER been established in her character- instead of continuing to protect/help her family as they begin their journey as King (regardless of how stupid that is) and Queen respectively?

How is Arya standing at the right hand of her sister in their final shot not an incredibly simple and satifying payoff? I realize they really hammered home that “that’s not her” stuff but being a queensguard isn’t exactly the same thing as being a lady. See: Brienne.

The leaks were right... and it's a joke.
 
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- How is Tyrion not in the books when he's obviously in the books... he's #1 in first person chapters. I guess that was #subvertingexpectations ...
- The conversation between Jon and Tyrion about Dany made no sense. Population of KL was never in her way.
- Her own monologues seem divorced from what just happened. She was always destined to burn it... that's as obvious as Jon being a Targaryan... but the writers threw in the towel on how to get there.
- Apparently bells give Dany PTSD for [reasons]. How do you get a writing job there anyway? Is it like being the failed son of a football coach?
- Greyworm won the teleport lottery this week.
- Drogon is the smartest character in the entire series. Burns the throne and fucks off... ending be damned.
- A minute later, Tyrion restores the throne because nobody in Westeros or HBO could think of something else. Why have him burn it then?
- Bran doesnt want it... but then states he travelled there only because he foresaw getting it. Which implies he also foresaw everything Dany would do ... and let it happen so he could be King.
- Everyone is ok with Sansa ditching them. Knights of the Vale - who've been her personal army for 3 seasons... relatives in Riverun... Dorne and Iron Islands werent like "me too!!"
- Arya is a ships captain now... they totally lost any grip on that character arc. Lazy as fuck writing. "What do we do about Arya?" "I dont know... she sails off into the sea"
- "i came here to kill the queen"... I guess 'she kinda forgot about' walking away from that.
 
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So, who voted for Bran in the poll?

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Geez! The GOT writers were replaced with a kid in the secong grade! We needed more deaths and violence! You had Aria available and you didn't use her?
I never reached a climax! But is bad GOT better than no GOT at all?
 
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is there no middle ground?
Sure. Will these writers explore it in some meaningful way? Signs point to no.

But as long as something enexpected and badass happens, let’s all just enjoy the ride.


To go back to this a second:

Who could have guessed that her diologue would be so delusional and lacking in introspection that it came across as comedy - to talk so boldly of libertating the world from oppression while ash rains down on your head from the smoldering ruins of the city you just burned for no reason was clearly meant to be a comedic parody, right?

It’s funny to me that I actually gave the writers too much credit in my prediction... instead of making Dany a relatable character again to make the decision to kill her a conflicted one, they went with the most basic one-dimensional villain possible so you don’t even feel remorse or regret over her death.

I guess good for them for being consistent? As I said, you can’t really walk back the “mentally snapped and burned a city” switch.

I think they made a mistake by having her burn the entire city. They set up the entire time that Cersei was using civilians as human shields in the Red Keep - why not just have Dany fly there and kill all those people.

A scene where there is a standoff and Cersei is literally standing behind a big room full of people, maybe in the throne room sitting on the iron throne - and Dany makes the completely understandable decision to torch them all to burn Cersei - because she is so full of mourning and rage and she’s come too far to turn back now.

(And hey, in doing this maybe Drogon can melt the iron throne, since that is a visual you wanted so badly you threw it in even though it made no sense for the dragon to have feelings about an inanimate object.)

Maybe Cersei boobie traps the city and when Dany torches the room full of people she accidentally sets off wildfire that burns down the city. So, she makes the decision to burn innocents to kill Cersei, so you get that plot beat, and you also destroy the city, so you get that plot beat - but you don’t have to turn her into a cartoonish villain!

Then she can be a normal relatable human for the finale, so you actually care about what happens to her?

Maybe in a mirror of what happened to Jaime, people blame her for blowing up the entire city but it’s not really her fault because of the Cersei sabotage. But people don’t know that and blame her, and she gets really frustrated and upset and angry about it - you know, furthering the “people don’t love me” plot line they set up.

And then this pushes her to be more and more unhinged - people don’t understand her, it wasn’t her fault, she killed Cersei to save the city! Again, mirroring what happened to Jaime, and like Jaime, maybe she embraces the villain role somewhat, and through ongoing morally ambiguous to outright bad decisions, this is what drives people to ultimately dispose of her?

I feel like they completely misread why the red wedding was so impactful.

Oh, it was the most shocking thing that could have happened - we need to duplicate that at the end!

Her burning the entire city would really be shocking, and therefore good like the red wedding, let’s go with that. People will love it because it’s shocking.
 
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