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Game Thread Game Seven: Ohio State 41, Indiana 10 (final)

Cleveland PD

Hoosiers looking to make corrections after loss at Iowa

<table class="byln" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="428"> <tbody><tr valign="bottom"> <td class="byln" width="328">10/18/2005, 7:08 p.m. ETBy MICHAEL MAROT
The Associated Press</td><td width="3"> </td><td width="97">
</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> BLOOMINGTON, Ind. (AP) — Terry Hoeppner thought the Iowa game was going perfectly. Indiana trailed by a field goal early in the fourth quarter, had the momentum and was controlling the ball.
Instead of rallying, though, the Hoosiers stumbled, prompting Hoeppner to challenge his players this week to figure out what went wrong.
"Be responsible and self-critical to analyze why we didn't finish the game," the first-year coach said Tuesday at his weekly news conference. "Here is what could happen. Cowards will find easy ways out. A man will step up and be tough about it. They will learn from it."
<script language="JavaScript"></script> <noscript> </noscript>The Hoosiers (4-2, 1-2 Big Ten) have no other choice if they intend to keep their home record unblemished this week against No. 14 Ohio State, which has won 12 straight over Indiana.
Hoeppner acknowledged much of what he witnessed Saturday in Iowa City was encouraging. Indiana didn't look nervous, as it had at Wisconsin two weeks earlier, didn't appear fazed by the big crowd and was poised enough to have a chance to pull off a big upset.
That's called progress.
But missed assignments and blown coverages on defense cost the Hoosiers a chance to end their Big Ten road losing streak at 13, and players seem to have gotten the message.
"A lot of the stuff that's been happening is guys are in the wrong gap," strong safety Will Meyers said. "It's not happening a lot, but it seemed like every time it happened against Iowa, they took advantage of it."
By scoring two touchdowns in the final nine minutes, the Hawkeyes sealed a 38-21 victory.
A similar performance against the Buckeyes could prove disastrous. Ohio State has one of the nation's top defenses, ranking second nationally against the run, ninth overall and 10th in scoring defense (15.3 points). The Buckeyes also have two fleet playmakers in receivers Ted Ginn and Santonio Holmes and a potent running game led by tailback Antonio Pittman and quarterback Troy Smith.

That leaves little margin for error if the Hoosiers intend to prevent the game from turning into a track meet.
Hoeppner wants more balance between the running and passing games and hopes to see the defense correct some of the mistakes that proved so costly at Iowa.
Linebacker John Pannozzo believes the Hoosiers will not be so mistake-prone this week.
<script language="JavaScript"></script> <noscript> </noscript>"It's not anything they did and it's not anything we can't fix or change," he said. "A couple of guys made mistakes and it hurt us, but we know we can fix them. We're not discouraged."
Despite the problems, the Hoosiers still remain two wins from becoming bowl eligible, are 3-0 at home and have continued to show signs of maturing.
Now comes the hard part. The next step, Hoeppner believes, will come with a boost of confidence, more consistency and a stronger mentality so they can avoid the pitfalls of a challenging schedule that has them playing three ranked teams in the next three weeks — Ohio State, Michigan State and Minnesota.
All Hoeppner can do now is hope his Hoosiers respond to the lesson of last weekend with greater focus to eliminate mistakes.
"You'll see young guys think they are the only player on the field," he said. "You'll have two guys overrun the play, and then the guy cuts back. As opposed to having one guy contain it, and the other guy bracket the play. I don't want to hear that you didn't know or didn't see that. We need to become more aware."
 
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Cleveland PD

IU coach knows a lot about OSU LBs

<table class="byln" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="428"> <tbody><tr valign="bottom"> <td class="byln" width="328">10/18/2005, 6:01 p.m. ET The Associated Press</td><td width="3"> </td><td width="97">
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — What's brewing today with the 2005 Ohio State Buckeyes ...
BUCKEYE BUZZ:@ Indiana coach Terry Hoeppner, in his first year after moving over from Miami (Ohio), has some history with OSU LBs A.J. Hawk and Bobby Carpenter.
"I have been in A.J. Hawk's home when I was recruiting his brother. Ryan played at Miami, but was playing behind Ben Roethlisberger. He transferred to Ohio University, where I coached against him. I was trying to get A.J. as well. I think it turned out pretty well (for him)," Hoeppner said. "Bobby Carpenter's dad, Rob, played at Miami. He was a great player. Bobby was at our camp. I think he gave us some serious consideration — or else he was just being nice to me."
<script language="JavaScript"></script> <noscript> </noscript>M.A.S.H. UNIT:@ SS Tyler Everett (neck sprain) and LB Marcus Freeman (knee) will miss Saturday's noon start at Indiana, with OT Kirk Barton (knee) questionable. CB Ashton Youboty (hip pointer) is expected to play. LB Mike D'Andrea (knee) played last week and may see more action against the Hoosiers.
MICHIGAN FAN?@ OG Doug Datish was an interested observer of Saturday night's dramatic Penn State-Michigan game, won on the final play by the rival Wolverines. "That was incredible. Mario Manningham, a guy from my hometown (Warren, Ohio), catching the winning touchdown. That was great." Asked if he was rooting hard for Michigan, Datish smiled and said, "In that instance I kind of had to. It's tough to admit but we needed them (the Nittany Lions) to get a loss and they did, thanks to Michigan."
 
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I love this

REPORTER: You said a week ago that people noticed time of possession in the Big Ten. Could you talk a little bit about the time of possession Saturday. They scored quickly, but there are times --

TRESSEL: We took your advice and started scoring quicker.
Yes. I like this one too.

TRESSEL: We always say you're as good as your work's deserved. At the end of the year, whatever we deserve to be, we will be.

REPORTER: Those core thoughts, 'We're as good as our work deserves.' Have those evolved over the years, the Tresselisms?

TRESSEL: No, that's from Revelations. I didn't originate that one.
 
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Hoosiers will hang tough and get bludgeoned anyway...

Against IA opponents, their much respected offense actually gains almost 12 fewer yards per game than their opponents give up to everybody else.

Do we really think they're only 12 yards worse than the AVERAGE offense we've faced???

They average 408.6 against their crap-fest of a schedule, and our opponents are averaging almost 476 yards per game against their other opponents. They are not close to as good as the average offense we've played.

We very well might hold them to < 100 yards total offense.
 
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Hoosiers will hang tough and get bludgeoned anyway...

Against IA opponents, their much respected offense actually gains almost 12 fewer yards per game than their opponents give up to everybody else.

Do we really think they're only 12 yards worse than the AVERAGE offense we've faced???

They average 408.6 against their crap-fest of a schedule, and our opponents are averaging almost 476 yards per game against their other opponents. They are not close to as good as the average offense we've played.

We very well might hold them to < 100 yards total offense.

I don't think we'll hold them to less than 100, not even close....less than 200, maybe. Thier O is better than people think, though they certainly won't be anything we shouldn't be able to handle.

This game will be quite interesting in that regard, though, because if we do somehow have trouble with Indiana, that doesn't bode well for dealing with Northwestern, who, well...everyone remembers last season. This will be a nice preview of how we will deal with that type of spread, though Indiana doesn't run nearly as well out of it as NW does.
 
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Thier O is better than people think

It depends on what people think. It seems to me that most people have a great deal of respect for Hoeppner's offense. I believe that this respect is based on their production, but their production is more a result of not having played a decent defense yet than anything else.

If they manage their average of coming 12 yards short of their IA opponents Total Defense YPG, I will be very impressed. Penn State, Iowa and SDSU all failed to do that against us.
 
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Not a blowout! 28-17 Hoosiers will hang tough at home! Weather?
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The Lantern

Buckeyes should be at home on road

By David Briggs
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif] Published: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 [/FONT]
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Media Credit: David Heasley
These Ohio State football fans made the trip to Penn State to cheer on the Buckeyes.

</td> </tr> </table></td></tr></table>The speakers can be left in storage this week.

It won\'t be the same home cooking of Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeyes have won at a better-than-90-percent clip over the past four years, but it won\'t be far off as No. 14 OSU pays a visit to Indiana this weekend. With all the Buckeye fans planning to make the trip from Columbus to Bloomington, the sea of red that will fill the 52,354 seats at Indiana\'s Memorial Stadium will likely feature just as much OSU scarlet as Indiana crimson.

"Yeah, that will be a little weird," senior linebacker Anthony Schlegel said.

So even though the coaches have not had to fire up the stereo to simulate the raucous road crowds of the Big Ten as they did in the week leading up to OSU\'s loss at Penn State, the Buckeyes know they can\'t rest easy.

"No, not at all," Schlegel said. "Anytime you see somebody on the road, you know you\'re going to get their best shot. We can\'t overlook anybody."

How could they? Indiana University\'s team this year has improved under first-year coach Terry Hoeppner, sporting a 4-2 record. Sure, the Buckeyes have beaten up on the perpetual punching bag of the Big Ten, winning their last six road meetings with IU by a combined score of 186-71, but their recent road woes are troubling. OSU has fallen in five of its last six road Big Ten games.

With OSU set to embark on a two-game road swing at Indiana and Minnesota, what is it about leaving the friendly confines of the \'Shoe that causes these losses? The crowds? The travel? The break in routine? The Buckeyes do not have a clear answer.

"I don\'t know," junior guard Doug Datish said. "But when you\'re at home, well, you feel just that - at home. But when you\'re away, you feel like an invader. It\'s just you and your 120 guys against everyone else."

There might be something to leaving behind their familiar surroundings. With so much of their year revolving around a football routine, scheduled to the second, there is a legitimate cause for concern about the four nights the Buckeyes will spend on the road this season.

"We are used to a certain routine," Datish said. "At home, everything is set up in a routine for us, so traveling is stressful."

Asked if he would consider changing anything given his team\'s recent road struggles, Tressel launched into an insightful analysis of the team\'s travel pattern.

"I guess we could bus a little differently when we bus," Tressel said Tuesday. "For instance, this particular week, we\'re busing. And we\'re leaving maybe an hour or so earlier than we did the last time we went there.

"But you know outside of that, we have only so many hours. By the time you get there and have something to eat, it\'s time to go to bed. So we won\'t change, you know, anything dramatically."

Regardless of this week\'s travel stresses, nothing compares to dealing with the noise of 110,000 amped-up fans, a scene the Buckeyes faced in State College, Pa.

"I didn\'t hear one snap count the whole game," Datish said. "Try keeping one eye on the ball and one eye on your man. It\'s hard."

With OSU\'s ticket office selling 15,000 seats to Saturday\'s game, that shouldn\'t be a problem this week.

Quick slants

Senior linebacker Bobby Carpenter has been named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week following Saturday\'s record outing. Carpenter recorded a season-high 11 tackles and his school-record four sacks upped his Big Ten-leading total to eight. He was also named the Football Writers Association of America Bronko Nagurski National Defensive Player of the Week. In addition, junior defensive back Ashton Youboty was named Big Ten Co-Special Teams Player of the Week after blocking two field goals and returning one for a touchdown. ... On the other side, senior A.J. Hawk was announced Tuesday as one of 12 semi-finalists for the Lombardi Award, given annually to the nation\'s top lineman. ... OSU opened at No. 15 in the season\'s first Bowl Championship Series ratings released Monday. ... Sophomore tackle Kirk Barton, sidelined early in OSU\'s Oct. 8 loss at Penn State, is still questionable going into Saturday, Tressel said Tuesday. ... With senior cornerback Tyler Everett out indefinitely after injuring his neck Saturday, true freshman Malcolm Jenkins will get the nod. ... OSU\'s Oct. 29 road outing at Minnesota will kick off at noon and be televised by ABC.
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These Ohio State football fans made the trip to Penn State to cheer on the Buckeyes.

</td> </tr> </tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>The speakers can be left in storage this week.

It won't be the same home cooking of Ohio Stadium, where the Buckeyes have won at a better-than-90-percent clip over the past four years, but it won't be far off as No. 14 OSU pays a visit to Indiana this weekend. With all the Buckeye fans planning to make the trip from Columbus to Bloomington, the sea of red that will fill the 52,354 seats at Indiana's Memorial Stadium will likely feature just as much OSU scarlet as Indiana crimson.

"Yeah, that will be a little weird," senior linebacker Anthony Schlegel said.

So even though the coaches have not had to fire up the stereo to simulate the raucous road crowds of the Big Ten as they did in the week leading up to OSU's loss at Penn State, the Buckeyes know they can't rest easy.

"No, not at all," Schlegel said. "Anytime you see somebody on the road, you know you're going to get their best shot. We can't overlook anybody."

How could they? Indiana University's team this year has improved under first-year coach Terry Hoeppner, sporting a 4-2 record. Sure, the Buckeyes have beaten up on the perpetual punching bag of the Big Ten, winning their last six road meetings with IU by a combined score of 186-71, but their recent road woes are troubling. OSU has fallen in five of its last six road Big Ten games.

With OSU set to embark on a two-game road swing at Indiana and Minnesota, what is it about leaving the friendly confines of the 'Shoe that causes these losses? The crowds? The travel? The break in routine? The Buckeyes do not have a clear answer.

"I don't know," junior guard Doug Datish said. "But when you're at home, well, you feel just that - at home. But when you're away, you feel like an invader. It's just you and your 120 guys against everyone else."

There might be something to leaving behind their familiar surroundings. With so much of their year revolving around a football routine, scheduled to the second, there is a legitimate cause for concern about the four nights the Buckeyes will spend on the road this season.

"We are used to a certain routine," Datish said. "At home, everything is set up in a routine for us, so traveling is stressful."

Asked if he would consider changing anything given his team's recent road struggles, Tressel launched into an insightful analysis of the team's travel pattern.

"I guess we could bus a little differently when we bus," Tressel said Tuesday. "For instance, this particular week, we're busing. And we're leaving maybe an hour or so earlier than we did the last time we went there.

"But you know outside of that, we have only so many hours. By the time you get there and have something to eat, it's time to go to bed. So we won't change, you know, anything dramatically."

Regardless of this week's travel stresses, nothing compares to dealing with the noise of 110,000 amped-up fans, a scene the Buckeyes faced in State College, Pa.

"I didn't hear one snap count the whole game," Datish said. "Try keeping one eye on the ball and one eye on your man. It's hard."

With OSU's ticket office selling 15,000 seats to Saturday's game, that shouldn't be a problem this week.

Quick slants

Senior linebacker Bobby Carpenter has been named Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week following Saturday's record outing. Carpenter recorded a season-high 11 tackles and his school-record four sacks upped his Big Ten-leading total to eight. He was also named the Football Writers Association of America Bronko Nagurski National Defensive Player of the Week. In addition, junior defensive back Ashton Youboty was named Big Ten Co-Special Teams Player of the Week after blocking two field goals and returning one for a touchdown. ... On the other side, senior A.J. Hawk was announced Tuesday as one of 12 semi-finalists for the Lombardi Award, given annually to the nation's top lineman. ... OSU opened at No. 15 in the season's first Bowl Championship Series ratings released Monday. ... Sophomore tackle Kirk Barton, sidelined early in OSU's Oct. 8 loss at Penn State, is still questionable going into Saturday, Tressel said Tuesday. ... With senior cornerback Tyler Everett out indefinitely after injuring his neck Saturday, true freshman Malcolm Jenkins will get the nod. ... OSU's Oct. 29 road outing at Minnesota will kick off at noon and be televised by ABC.</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
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"But you know outside of that, we have only so many hours. By the time you get there and have something to eat, it's time to go to bed. So we won't change, you know, anything dramatically."

I know its IU and we will win no matter what, but our road performance under Tressel has sucked some major wang. You would think its something they would be evaluating and attempting to fix. If what you have been doing isn't working then doing something else, anything else, is probably at least a step in the right direction.

Reading between the lines on JT is starting to give me an uneasy feeling about his willingness to change. As has been mentioned several times on here, appearing to be stubborn/resistant to change in the face of such obvious underperformance could very well create a strong(and somewhat justified) anti-JT faction out there.

Nothing major yet, but I just see the little indicators that worry me. I DO NOT want to lose Tressel.
 
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