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Game Thread Game Ten: Ohio State 38, Wisconsin 17 (final)

Jaxbuck;975300; said:
Yeah. Northern Illinois and Indiana will do that for you. How'd they look in all the games prior to those?

Nevada? Citadel? MSU? Iowa? PSU?

Nevada? You mean UNLV?

Indiana is not comparable to Northern Illinois. 30 points was the biggest margin of victory against the Hoosiers this season. How'd the Badgers look in the games prior? If you would have paid attention, that was my point. The Badgers already had played similar or worse teams earlier in the season and eeked out victories. Like I said, Penn State allowed 31 points against Indiana and Wisconsin 3. That shant be ignored. The point isn't that Indiana's offense is on par with OSU. The point is that on a given Saturday, UW's defense is capable of playing MUCH better than PSU's if they play to their potential.
 
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Wisky at home and on the road is like Jekyll and Hyde. They will not be able to stretch our defense. I think Donovan will turn the ball over a couple of times. I think PSU and Wisky are about the same type of team talent wise...the difference is this game is at the shoe. I think not having Smith to give Hill a rest is gonna hurt them badly. Similar score as the PSU game 42-14
 
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Jaxbuck;974754; said:
Wow. This guy writes about UW for a living and doesn't seem to know that Smith isn't allowed to travel for road games. Am I missing something? Did the courts allow him to travel for this game or something?

He's from Ohio, so this counts as a home game :wink2:
 
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I knew something was up when Penn State's D gave up 24 to Buffalo. But Wisky giving up 31 to the Citadel? They might have shown improvement against Northern Illinois and a quickly collapsing Indiana offense, but I'm pretty confident heading into this one that the offense will have few problems. UW will be down to its third string running back depending on PJ Hill's strength, and Donovan simply cannot win a game for the Badgers.

I'm think along the lines of 31 - 10 Buckeyes. Their offense will get a TD either off a turnover or good field position on a kick return. Hopefully the defense puts down the clamps after giving up so many yards to PSU on the ground. If they do, I'm willing to make it 31-6.
 
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Hill will play. Their "d" has been a major disappointment......over hype?
Injuries to their WR corp have limited their offense.
Watch them try to run up the gut on us like PSU. It looked like Larimore was having a rough night for a while there.
Did Denlinger play?
 
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Bernini;975341; said:
Nevada? You mean UNLV?

Indiana is not comparable to Northern Illinois. 30 points was the biggest margin of victory against the Hoosiers this season. How'd the Badgers look in the games prior? If you would have paid attention, that was my point. The Badgers already had played similar or worse teams earlier in the season and eeked out victories. Like I said, Penn State allowed 31 points against Indiana and Wisconsin 3. That shant be ignored. The point isn't that Indiana's offense is on par with OSU. The point is that on a given Saturday, UW's defense is capable of playing MUCH better than PSU's if they play to their potential.

I look at it more like Indiana is incompetent on the road and solid at home... Like most of the B10 teams, they have serious issues playing on the road, but can hang with most teams at their own place..
 
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Bernini;975269; said:
It seems like some posters might be underestimating the difficulty of this contest based on UW's performance against PSU, when they were throttled 38-7. However, the transitive property doesn't always work in sports, especially college football.
Bernini;975341; said:
Like I said, Penn State allowed 31 points against Indiana and Wisconsin 3. That shant be ignored.
i see. the transitive property doesn't always work in sports... except only when you want it to. gotcha.
 
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Taosman;975396; said:
Hill will play. Their "d" has been a major disappointment......over hype?
Injuries to their WR corp have limited their offense.
Watch them try to run up the gut on us like PSU. It looked like Larimore was having a rough night for a while there.
Did Denlinger play?

It wasn't over-hype so much as underestimating the impact of a few players who were lost and believing the team's own press clippings. The team had possibly the best defense in the nation last year and you figured 3-4 players graduating shouldn't change that drastically. That's pretty standard attrition. Losing Jamal Cooper prior to the season as a result of a drunken tirade was a major detriment. He wasn't spectacular, but he gave the D-Line necessary depth. They could only justify playing with a 5 man rotation until recently, and that degraded the effectiveness of those players because they don't have unlimited stamina. They couldn't allow the linebackers freedom to make plays. Ikegwuonu was always sick/cramping/injured for the first 6 games. Langford was playing soft coverage to compensate for perceived/real liabilities at safety. Carter has improved in coverage but Pleasant just has a big mouth.

But Wisky giving up 31 to the Citadel? They might have shown improvement against Northern Illinois and a quickly collapsing Indiana offense, but I'm pretty confident heading into this one that the offense will have few problems.

Spread-option offenses gave Wisconsin problems especially, which was similar to Michigan in that respect. The Citadel, UNLV, Illinois, and MSU (to an extent) all employed a version of the spread-option. In all fairness, Wisconsin only legitimately allowed 24 points against the Citadel (7 in garbage time). Not that it's of tremendous solace. If you're thinking of spreading out Wisconsin, I don't think it would be recommended. Spreads without the dual running option are probably not the optimum strategy because you could make an argument that the Badgers nickle corner true frosh Aaron Henry is better than Langford. Big time playmaker who OSU was strongly interested in and should have offered. He's fodder for 1st team frosh all american. Love that guy.

i see. the transitive property doesn't always work in sports... except only when you want it to. gotcha.

You really didn't. I said on any given Saturday Wisconsin's defense could be better than PSU's, and that result proves they're capable. I never made a declaration such as: "we allowed 31 and they allowed 3....therefore we're better and we'll shut down OSU". That would be the transitive property.
 
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