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Game Thread Game Three: Ohio State 27, San Diego State 6 (final)

I guess I wasn't and I am not a so called JZ "homer" just a frustrated OSU fan
Wasnt talking to you.

We are all frustrated. But my point of the whole matter is, I have been frustrated since JT got here. This offense is a travesty. With the ammount of talent that this team has, we should be scoring 40 points a game. Or at least have some sort of an organized offensive attack.

I would have to disagree there to an extent, the wide receivers had a few drops but.....several passes were poorly thrown and he had numerous bad reads on several plays, missing wide open receivers. His reads were bad and his timing is off.

I would not grade his performance today has good at all.
I am not really arguing this point. The PROBLEM is the playcalling, the blocking schemes, the pass routes.

You guys are forgetting one thing about Troy though. While some of his passes were off, he rushed for 80 yards. Did an incredible job on several plays of avoiding sacks and running, etc.

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The PROBLEM is the playcalling, the blocking schemes, the pass routes.

Blocking scheme I agree with...I hate the zone scheme when we could blown those boys off the ball every snap.

The playcalling was fine IMO except for the reverse to Ginn...too obvious. The routes were also fine IMHO but TS was gone before anything could develop.

TS didn't play as bad as it seemed while watching live...but he was not the world beater we were all expecting.
 
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The playcalling was fine IMO except for the reverse to Ginn...too obvious. The routes were also fine IMHO but TS was gone before anything could develop.

I guess a judgement on the passing routes would be better if I was watching it live. However, it seemed like the only routes I saw were crossing routes (4 yards past the LOS). Curl and stop routes as well. Nothing down field. Was nothing open? I do agree that Troy doesnt stay in the pocket enough, no doubt.

They really just all looked uncomfortable out there. I still dont get why, when inside the 10, they dont go back to the I, or at least a bigger formation. The spread offense is very hard to operate down inside the 10. No room to work with.
 
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Date: Sep 17, 2005

Junior Troy Smith made his first start at quarterback in the 2005 season and helped lead the Buckeyes to a 27-6 win over San Diego State. Smith threw for 149 yards and rushed for 87 more and two touchdowns in the win. Linebacker Anthony Schlegel set up a third touchdown with a fumble recovery at the SDSU 1-yard line.
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The burning question on every Ohio State fan’s mind as the Buckeyes prepared to host San Diego State was how would the Buckeyes bounce back from last week’s heartbreaking loss to No. 2-ranked Texas?


Well, other than the first day from scrimmage – which went for an 80-yard touchdown for the visiting Aztecs – the Buckeyes were fairly impressive.

The ninth-ranked Buckeyes shrugged off that early touchdown and rode the play of quarterback Troy Smith and an otherwise smothering defense to a 27-6 win before 104,533 Saturday at Ohio Stadium.

The visiting Aztecs shocked the Buckeyes on their first play as quarterback Kevin O’Donnell threw a swing pass to receiver Brett Swain, who turned down the right sideline and was gone on a perfectly conceived 80-yard touchdown and a 6-0 lead just 11 seconds into the game.

But OSU milked good field position into a pair of first-half touchdown runs by Smith and built a 14-6 halftime lead.

“I think obviously after the first play of the game, our defense dominated the football game,” said OSU coach Jim Tressel. “They created field position for us and made for some short fields for the offensive team and came up with a turnover on the 1 and just really was in total control of the football game.”

Ohio State stayed with its spread offense, but leaned heavily to the run with inside gives and option plays. Smith, making his first start of the year at quarterback, finished with 87 yards rushing on 14 carries with the two touchdowns. Smith, who improved to 5-1 as a starter, was also 14 of 26 passing for 149 yards with an interception.

“I thought Troy progressed and that's what we hope for,” Tressel said.
OSU was showed good balance with 179 yards rushing and 196 yards passing.

“It feels good that we got the W, but we don’t feel good offensively with the way we performed,” Smith said. “I don’t think we’re that far away. But, then again, I don’t think that we’re that close.”

Tailback Antonio Pittman added 58 yards on 18 carries. Split end Roy Hall had four catches for 44 yards, while Santonio Holmes added four catches for 42 yards to go with a 35-yard punt return.

This was another command performance for the OSU defense, which, after the first 80-yard play, held SDSU to just 99 yards total offense and two more first downs over the rest of the game. The Buckeyes stopped the Aztecs on six straight possessions by making them go three-and-out. SDSU went 2-1/2 quarters without a first down.

“Aside from the first play, we were good in most aspects,” said OSU linebacker A.J. Hawk. “We shut them down most of the game and you have to give credit to the front four. They got pressure on the quarterback all day.”

SDSU coach Tom Craft summed up the game.

“Going into this game, we really felt it would be a big challenge,” Craft said. “It was an electrifying start, but without any follow-up. I saw growth and development with our special teams from week one, and we did things today that everyone can draw from in the future.”

Josh Huston’s kickoff to start the game was a touchback, giving SDSU possession on its own 20. Nobody saw what was coming next as O’Donnell hit Swain in the right flat. He picked up blocks on OSU defensive backs Ashton Youboty and Donte Whitner and was gone down the sideline on the 80-yard touchdown. Garrett Palmer’s PAT kick missed the mark, but the Aztecs led 6-0 with 14:49 left in the first.

Ohio State got two first downs on its first possession and one on its second drive, but was forced to punt each time. Finally, Holmes sparked the Buckeyes with a 35-yard punt return down to the SDSU 35. Roy Hall delivered a crushing block to spring Holmes and, after SDSU’s Marcus Demps was penalized for a late hit, the Buckeyes were in business at the Aztecs’ 20-yard line.

“The punt team, we feel, is the most crucial team in football,” Holmes said. “We think the punt return team can also be the most devastating. When you get opportunities to make a play, you have to take advantage of it.”

The Buckeyes needed three plays to find the end zone. Smith got 4 yards on a first-down keeper. Pittman got 2 yards on an inside give out of the one-back set. Finally, after an SDSU timeout to set the defense, Smith kept the ball over right tackle and made a couple of good cuts to get down to the goal line and complete the 14-yard touchdown. Huston’s extra point gave OSU a 7-6 lead with 26 seconds left in the first quarter.

“Every guy on our offensive line was hungry for that score,” Smith said. “Nick (Mangold) did a great job of blocking the middle linebacker. Rob (Sims) zoned another guy and I just took it in.”

The Buckeyes then drove 75 yards on their next possession, from their own 24 down to the SDSU 1. Smith found Ginn for a 23-yard gain and Holmes for 25 more. But on first-and-goal at the 1, Brandon Schnittker fumbled trying to get the ball over the plane of the goal line. Jonathan Bailes forced the fumble and teammate Donny Baker recovered.

“I was just trying to make something happen,” Schnittker said. “Maybe it was just inexperience. I talked to Coach Tressel after that play and he said, `Don’t reach the ball out unless you’re sure.’ ”

But another Holmes punt return – this time a 13-yarder – gave the Buckeyes possession at the SDSU 32. OSU needed eight plays to convert that field position advantage into a score. The Buckeyes got all 32 of those yards on the ground. Smith converted a third down with a 12-yard gain on an option keeper. Maurice Wells gave OSU a first down at the 2-yard line with a tough 4-yard run inside. On second-and-goal from the 1, Smith scored on a quarterback sneak, plowing into the goal line behind center Nick Mangold and left guard T.J. Downing for the touchdown and a 14-6 lead with 5:15 left in the first half.

OSU got the ball to start the second half and moved 62 yards in 13 plays.

Smith got the drive going with a 20-yard pass to Hall. He converted a third down with a 7-yard pass to Anthony Gonzalez down to the SDSU 13. But Smith’s third-down pass to Gonzalez at the goal line was incomplete and the Buckeyes settled for Huston’s 25-yard field goal and a 17-6 lead with 9:33 left in the third quarter.

Smith was intercepted by SDSU’s Baker midway through the third quarter, but the Aztecs could not threaten. A 49-yard A.J. Trapasso punt, coupled with a holding penalty on the Aztecs, backed them up to their own 7-yard line. On first down there, O’Donnell double clutched on an option pitch to Lynell Hamilton and the ball skitted to the ground, where OSU’s Anthony Schlegel recovered it. The recovery, coming on the final play of the third quarter, came at the SDSU 1-yard line.

When play resumed to start the fourth quarter, Schnittker plowed into the end zone from the 1 on first down to put OSU up 24-6 with 14:58 left in the game.

“I was glad the coaches put me back in that situation,” Schnittker said.

“We talked all week that when we run that play we’re going to run right up the middle. We’re just going to put our head down and go. The offensive line did a great job.”

Huston added a 39-yard field goal with 5:55 left in the game to push the lead to 27-6 with 5:55 left.

Also Notable

* OSU improved to 3-0 all-time against San Diego State. It was the third tough game the Aztecs have given OSU in five years. The Buckeyes won 27-16 in 2001 and 16-13 in 2003.

* The Buckeyes improved to 16-2 in nonconference regular season games under Tressel, in his fifth year as the OSU coach. OSU is 27-4 at home and 42-12 overall under Tressel.

* OSU came into the game with just two touchdowns on eight forays inside the red zone in their first two games. In this game, OSU was inside the SDSU 20 six times and came away with three touchdowns, one field goal and Schnittker’s fumble. A sixth possession saw OSU end the game at the SDSU 12-yard line.

* OSU freshman Malcolm Jenkins made his first career start at cornerback, while regular corner starter Tyler Everett opened at nickel back in place of Brandon Mitchell.

* Redshirt freshman tailback Erik Haw saw his first action and had one carry for 6 yards and two catches for 6 yards.

* Huston’s two made field goals make him now 9 of 10 on field goals on the year.

* The Buckeyes host Iowa next Saturday in their Big Ten opener. The game, starting at noon, will be televised regionally by ABC.
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A few pics from the game...


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Ohio State's Santonio Holmes (4) makes a punt return in the second quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio. Holmes' punt returns set up Troy Smith's two first-half touchdown runs to help No. 9 Ohio State shake off its Texas hangover with a 27-6 win over San Diego State on Saturday.


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Ohioi State's Santonio Holmes (4), right, gets a late hit from San Diego State's Marcus Demps (21) along the sideline Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 in the second quarter at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel, left, talks to quarterback Troy Smith on the sideline during a time out in the second quarter against San Diego State Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005, at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.


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San Diego defensive end Kurt Kahui (97) tackles Ohio State tailback Antonio Pittman (25) in the third quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State linebacker Anthony Schlegel (51) recovers fumble in the thrid quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005, at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio. Behind Schlegel is San Diego State running back Lynell Hamilton (22) and Ohio State corner back Donte Whitner (9).
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Ohio State fullback Brandon Schnettker (43) carries the ball into the end zone in fourth quarter against San Diego State defense Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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San Diego State's DeMarco Sampson (15) tackles Ohio State's Ted Ginn Jr. (7) on the punt return in the third quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005, at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State cornerback Malcolm Jenkins (2) tackles San Diego State wide receiver Chazeray Schilens (1) in the first quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State's Mike Kudla, right, puts the pressure on San Diego State quarterback Kevin O'Connell during the second quarter Saturday Sept. 17, 2005, in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith (10) celebrates his first quarter touchdown run against San Diego State with his teammates Nick Mangold (55), left, Steve Rehring (71) and Santonio Holmes (4), right, Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at the Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio.
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Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith (10) stretches to get the ball in the end zone against San Diego State defensive backs Eric Hodge (27) and T.J., McKay (13) in the first quarter Saturday, Sept. 17, 2005 at Ohio Stadium in Columbis, Ohio.
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Kudla was in the quarterback's face all day long. I can't find his stats, but he has at least a couple sacks already this season. He's really stepped up at the defense end position and really strengthens our defensive line. He's strong enough to bull rush, and quick enough to get to the quarterback by speed alone by coming off of the edge. I cant say enough about how impressed I am with his play thus far into the season.
 
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Hey guys, i was at work and wasn't able to watch any of the game (and i think we got the OU game instead anyway), but wanted to know how y'all looked. I saw their 80 yard TD, but other than that it doesn't seem like they were able to muster anything. any opinions on the game?
 
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Stats-wise, this was one of the most dominating defensive performances in a long time. Aside from the 80-yard sideline TD pass on the game's opening play, the defense held SDSU to 99 yards total offense (13 rushing, 86 passing) and two--that's right, two--first downs, on 13 possessions.

We just need to get the offense to get the ball downfield. The throws to Ginn behind the LOS are surprising no one anymore, and in fact defenses are sitting on those routes and flat out destroying them. Our running backs sure like to juke around at the LOS instead of hitting the hole. We had a couple more dropped passes today. Things like these to come back to bite us in conference play. Hopefully the team will focus this week during practices and get their heads back into the game. Iowa is going to play us tough next week and we'll have to be ready for a dogfight.
 
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FWIW

OSU results today/SDSU average coming in

27 pts/42.5
179 yds rushing/231.5
196 yds pass/194.5
375 total offense/426


Whats it all mean? Same old shit differnt year.

Right now I say we lose at least one possibly two more. Soon as we run up against a D that can stop Smith from running and make him throw(Iowa jumps to mind) we're in trouble.
 
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Our offense will improve once the season goes on, game-by-game, these kids havent been in this offense that long, we didnt open things up untill the final games of last year really. Iowa looked like shit today against a division I-AA team, they dont worry me at all. SDSU has alot of speed on defense, their MLB had a helluva game today, almost breaking the single game tackle record.

Our defense played amazing today, give them some credit, everyone needs to stop talking about our offense and talk about how our defense played their ass off. We will be in every game this year because of our defense.
 
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