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Game Thread Game Three: Ohio State 27, San Diego State 6 (final)

Discussion in '2005 Football Season Capsule' started by Clarity, Nov 30, 2004.

  1. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Did you expect them to show agaisnt SDSU the friggin whole of the O? Do you honestly think Tress wants that on film so Iowa has a better idea what to expect?

    Tressel coaches a season long season, not a game by game season. He's not going to go flashy against lesser opps. He's going to take the basic O out, kick the tires, and put it back in the garage.

    It's been 4 friggin years.. why is this such a shock? Come November, you'll be happy he coaches the way he does. Mostly cause noone will remember shit about Sandy Ego State.

    Defense getting tired? I doubt it. I seriously doubt this D is going to risk being any more tired than the 02 D. They didn't seem to suffer, and neither will this D.
     
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  2. Golferdow01

    Golferdow01 East-Coast Living

    Interesting prespective BKB...I never thought of it that way. I guess I now have a reason to celebrate when we barely beat these crappy teams :biggrin:
     
  3. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    I sort of agree with you BKB, but I don't necessarily think it was because they didn't want to show anything to Iowa. They have a lot of good teams on their schedule after that...do they not use the full gameplan against Iowa either?

    If what I heard that Lachey (that's JIM Lachey) said about practie this week in true, I think coach knew h had a team that would be a bit flat and whose timing was going to be off after the Texas letdown. He also knew that SDSU had no chance of rolling up the Buckeye D, so he went small plan for those reasons in my estimation.it could have been for Iowa...but I'm not sure that's not giving coach Tressel too much credit.
     
  4. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Execution fellas. That is the ticket IMO. The opportunites were there downfield..missed. The pitch was open today on numerous occasions...missed. The Wr's dropped wide open passes, The line allowed inside gap penetration on zone plays, and the RBs/WRs made mistakes trying to cut back and were caught for big losses.

    It seemed to me that TS was trying to end the QB issue with one play...and instead ended up white knuckling all day instead of just playing the game. However, instead of that swagger making everyone better like it did last year, it added the pressure. Teddy Ginn looks frustrated and it is showing everytime he touches the ball. He is swinging for the fences...and whiffing.

    I have a hard time blaming the playcalling when the opportunities are there. Certain plays are designed to get a look at what is available from the defense. Playcalling is a game piggyback chess. You see how they react to a situation and call another play based on that reaction. The plays were there...but we did not execute them.

    Relax and play...
     
  5. scooter1369

    scooter1369 Chief Toad Fart

    Well said.:oh: :io:
     
  6. Taosman

    Taosman Flatten the Curve

    After Smith's play today, are we looking at even more QB controversy? Smith has regressed and Zwick looked sharp! Next week will be critical for the season. I am very worried.
     
  7. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    My comments shouldn't be read to mean ONLY Iowa. It's been Tress' MO to work in plays throughout the season, that's more what I mean.

    Regardless, they need to play better next week to beat Iowa

    I'm keeping sane by believing that OSU was flat this week owing to let down from Texas and/or preparing for Iowa (that is, not overlooking Sandy Ego, but working on Iowa a bit too)
     
  8. lvbuckeye

    lvbuckeye Silver Surfer

    99 yards in 59:49... that is some Playstation shit... seriously, even with the 80 yarder, it's STILL some playstation shit... this is right up there with '96, '98, and '02... could turn out to be even better...

    i don't care if Troy brings another dimension, and i don't care if he has 'it.' the coaches need to take the designed runs out of the playbook, and make him stand in the pocket all week in practice... i remember in '01, Tressel spent a lot of time in practice making Bells throw the ball out of bounds... Tressel needs to have Troy concentrate on reading the field, and making the right throws... just because you can run, doesn't mean it's a good idea to run every frickin' play... the QB should NOT be the leading rusher in the game, period. until Troy stops calling his own number, and starts getting the rest of the guys involved, the offensive woes will continue...

    that being said, i think it was the third quarter, Troy was in the pocket on right side, and was nearly sacked. he spun out and ran for about 12 yards, while making 5 guys miss along the way (now i know why there was so much hype about his shuttle time :biggrin:)... that was an EXCELLENT play, and not just for the ridiculous scramble, but for the fact that he held the ball in the pocket for about 5 seconds.. ''

    i'm not bitching... we kicked the crap out of them, even if the scoreboard doesn't reflect it... the box score shows 20 first downs to 3...

    as soon as Troy and teddy stop pressing so much, the O will come around...

    JZ looked damn good... 9/10, with the only Inc being a throwaway...
     
  9. ScarletBlood31

    ScarletBlood31 Buckeye in Blacksburg

    wow dont tell me you guys sat next to your computers while the game was on? wow.



    but seriously, Smith didnt play well at all, im pissed at tressel (and smith) for not calling any agressive plays downfield, but all of you sayin how Zwick looked good and sharp are not tellin the whole story of it. Zwick came in playing a tired, given-up defense (probably some reserve guys in there) at the end of the game. you cant judge 1 possession like that and say that he was all great. but he did still look decent anyway.
     
  10. BrutusBobcat

    BrutusBobcat Icon and Entertainer

    Zwick's play is worthy of a short discussion -- yes, backup and/or tired defense, but to his credit, he did make good reads and hit the open receiver with a catchable ball...something Smith had issues with.

    The downside is that I'm not sure if any of those completions was to a receiver more than five yards downfield. I'd have to go look at the game again, but SDSU's zone may have been leaving the underneath open, so JZ was possibly just taking what they were giving him.

    Nothing there to re-ignite the QB controversy, I think. JZ may start again someday, but it's going to take something drastic for that to happen. Smith is the guy again, so let's just hope that he gets up to speed this week. Obviously he's capable of playing at a much higher level than we've seen so far, but it's time to break out the WD-40 and get the rust off of him already.
     
  11. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="98%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=3>Captain's Corner: Defense Sets The Tone

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    </TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Jerry Rudzinski
    Date: Sep 18, 2005

    Jerry Rudzinski has his weekly look at the Buckeye gameday performance. Why was physical play the key this week, and why might what we have seen in the red zone not be such a bad thing? The captain talks about that and more.
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    Entering the San Diego State game, I felt the key for the Buckeyes was playing physical. Even with a special teams blunder, or a negative turnover ratio, or missed red zone opportunities, or the other traditional “keys to the game,” SDSU was an opponent OSU should beat. Playing physical would create enough “three-and-outs” by the defense, and it would keep the time of possession in our favor with a sustained Buckeye running game. At the end of the day, the defense was physical, and OSU dominated the clock. The running game was adequate and the SDSU team, especially the offense, should be sore the early part of this week.
    The defense will occasionally give up the big one. It is bound to happen. I would almost rather see a defense susceptible to a big play every now and then than I would see a defense that has an offense jam it down their throats for a 15-play drive. These other offenses give scholarships to really fast players. In addition, the coaches spend 365 days a year drawing plays on a chalkboard. It will happen.
    We need to be concerned if a team like SDSU comes out and bullies OSU’s front seven. We need to be concerned when the defense looks intimidated and worn down from bigger, stronger bodies shoving them around. That was not at all the case on Saturday. We might question why that touchdown took place on the first play of the game, but I think it might have been coincidence actually. That could happen halfway through the third quarter. That is why we practice and recruit offense as well as defense. That is one for SDSU.
    Anyone who asks “What does Troy do that Justin doesn’t do?” had their question answered on the first OSU touchdown. A 14-yard red zone rush for Smith showed us why they tagged him “Athlete” instead of “Quarterback” during the recruiting process. Smith is shifty and often times creative. His vision of the passing game and physical dimensions don’t always add up to other All-American quarterbacks we’ve seen in college football, but he can many times out-athlete some very athletic defenses. It is what it is. He is an athlete playing quarterback. Troy Smith or Jim Tressel don’t need to apologize for that. If the Buckeyes had a healthy secondary helping him in the first half of that Purdue game last year, Smith would probably be undefeated as a starting quarterback. He had some blunders yesterday, but that is expected considering he had only played half a ball game since last November. His vision, rhythm, and control of the offense should improve week by week.
    Well, the Buckeye fan base certainly voiced their opinion on what is needed in the red zone after the loss to Texas. Saturday, the coaches revealed their opinion on what needs to happen in the red zone – establish a running game. A blend of option, quarterback keepers, and traditional I formation rushing plays will allow OSU to go after teams. So the Buckeyes play on a short, tightened field when they cross the 20. Good. They can get in a fight on the line of scrimmage in a long or short field. They can pound people with a tightened or wide-open field. Red zone is less about play-calling and more about mindset. Defensive coaches always preached to me and our defense about mindset near the goal line. Offensive coaches are allowed to do the same. OSU will need to spread things out as the Big Ten approaches, but that is the easy part. The hard part is laying the foundation of an aggressive mindset inside the red zone.
    Iowa will keep us busy this week in practice. Tate was 15 of 18 for 247 yards last week. Iowa didn’t beat us last year. They owned us. I wouldn’t be surprised if the coaches called some practices off a few minutes early to create more time to watch the game film from last year. Unlike SDSU, playing physical in the Big Ten opener won’t be enough. Without it, we will be blown out. However, to begin 1-0 in league play, the Buckeyes need to play physical and also carry out the traditional “keys to the game.”
    Buckeye Leaves…
    Santonio Holmes – He is teaching teams that kicking away from Ted Ginn Jr. might not be that good of an idea. In addition, I love watching wide receivers that take ownership of spacing, the defensive backfield, their route running, and the ball once it is put in the air. He is special.
    Josh Huston – Kickoffs, field goals, and extra points. “Huuuuuuuuuuu.” I never thought I’d see a kicker be Team MVP like last year. If it weren’t for #47, we might have another kicker MVP through three games.
    Mike Kudla – Coach Heacock is giving a lot of credit to the defensive line for their performance the last 59:49 of the game. Kudla seemed to spark things. He was like the mosquito that wouldn’t go away for that SDSU offense. Motor and effort earn a Buckeye Leaf in my book.

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  12. gotwoody

    gotwoody Banned

    We looked damned awful. Thank God, we were playing SDSU and not Iowa. A win is a win, but we need to resolve all of our issues, soon. I think we should put Zwick in this week. Smith is looking in one direction when he has the ball. He didn't throw effectively against a piss-poor SDSU defense and he missed open receivers in the middle of the field, time and time again. I'm hoping he will show up soon.
     
  13. ScarletBlood31

    ScarletBlood31 Buckeye in Blacksburg

    First of all, while SDSU is nowhere near a Texas, Iowa, or Michigan, i wouldnt call them "piss poor defense". Hell, they humbled us didnt they? but anyways, Smith did miss alot of open receivers downfield, and i almost slit my throat from all the stupid 5 yard passes and QB options / sweeps. But theres no way you can start Zwick next week. Whilie he may have looked better and Smith not as good, you positively cannot bench him after his FIRST START. All that does is stir up the QB controversy even more, and its not fair to not let him get much of a chance. I say we give Boeckman some more playing time.
     
  14. Golferdow01

    Golferdow01 East-Coast Living

    That really isn't saying much since our offense is what...like 80 something in the nation

    Terrible idea IMO...bringing in Boeckman makes it a 3-way deal and that just makes things worse. We need to keep Smith in the game and give him lots of PT
     
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  15. SanAntonioBuck

    SanAntonioBuck RIP Our Friend and Hero

    Come on SDSU! We need your help in our SOS! Win some games!
     

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