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nomatta
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I am kind of glad for the godawful timing of this game because it forced me to miss us getting our lunch handed to us.
Looking at the box score... not a lot of positives to take away.
We need our best players to show up way more than this, and we're gonna need more consistency on both ends of the court if we don't want to get blown out multiple times this season. We are a short-handed team in general this season, we were really short-handed last night given one of our two bigs was out... but that is no excuse for this team's composure to crumble as badly as it apparently did in several stretches. That's a recipe for an embarrassing season. Hoping Holtmann and staff grab the reins a bit harder next time things start to spiral.
Hoping we can salvage something good from this trip to Portland. Don't feel super optimistic given that the team gets less than a day turn-around from an utter beat-down.
Looking at the box score... not a lot of positives to take away.
We need our best players to show up way more than this, and we're gonna need more consistency on both ends of the court if we don't want to get blown out multiple times this season. We are a short-handed team in general this season, we were really short-handed last night given one of our two bigs was out... but that is no excuse for this team's composure to crumble as badly as it apparently did in several stretches. That's a recipe for an embarrassing season. Hoping Holtmann and staff grab the reins a bit harder next time things start to spiral.
Hoping we can salvage something good from this trip to Portland. Don't feel super optimistic given that the team gets less than a day turn-around from an utter beat-down.
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OSU_Buckguy
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being out of shape and tired almost always leads to playing defense solely by reaching. when kaleb fouled perkins' eye/fro, what i noticed most was how he gave up after the lunge. he was past the point of breaking down and turning around. kaleb still has a lot of flabby, floppy weight. sully was about the same size, but he wasn't jello. though not a great defender, he still defended with his lower half. nick ward was not dissimilar as a high school senior or college freshman. it's still going take another spring and summer before kaleb is fit enough to play 25+ minutes without fouling out. wesson and banks certainly have their work cut out for them.
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OSU_Buckguy
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agreed. for all the talk about matta's teams' lack of desire/focus/whatever, a loss like last night happened only once last season. they were "in" pretty much every game. the '15 season had multiple horrible losses, but '14 had only one.
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Systems_id
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Not to mention Lyle. I didn't get to watch the game but it sounds like we were just outclassed by a better team. Hope to see this team improve and grow.
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DZ83CK
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In hindsight, there isn't a coach in college basketball that would have made the score close in this game considering OSU had one big and a poor defensive one at that, and Gonzaga was too tough defensively for this OSU roster, there was no one who could get their own offense. Recently Lyle would be the guy to take it on himself and get some points, but they don't have that element.
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OSU_Buckguy
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i suspect some fans are becoming harbaugh-type ttun fans. for the first 3+ seasons, every issue will be laid at the previous coach's feet and every positive will be due to the new coach. just wait until ho1tmann gets his players...
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This years team kind of is what it is. They will likely take a few more thumpings like this before all is said and done. Just refocus and beat the teams that you should.
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DZ83CK
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For someone who gripes about complaints about Matta from fans now, you do a great job of inviting criticism of Matta with your constant, proactive defense of him. He was not directly under attack in this thread, you just brought him into the discussion with the implication that any shortcomings of this team aren't his fault. Matta was in fact fired for poor recruiting and the current team was essentially his creation - to suggest otherwise is off the mark. This season's team was never going to be a special one regardless of who the coach was. As OSU basketball fans, all we can really hope for is improvement year over year, a win or two extra each year until the program gets back to being a contender for the B1G title and S16+.
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wigmon
Heisman
Well, you can't really fault the roster issues on the current coach. you definitely have to give him a couple of years for that.
Now, as for getting the most out of players and teaching the game, we should see improvement during the year. If we look the same at the end of january and february like we did last night, then the coach would need to shoulder some blame. Obviously Potter isn't a great player right now, but when you only have 1 center on roster who is still working on conditioning, then you are going to have some problems against a team with size.
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OSU_Buckguy
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i agree. i just see some who seek to paint seemingly every positive as caused by ho1tmann and every negative as a reflection of matta. it's not that simple. this is the type of thinking up north we note and make fun of. weighing everything you see against wholly different rosters rather than, as you point out, what you see from game one this season to march will fester and mislead. matta was a good coach with obvious imperfections. like it or not, this is and will be the case with ho1tmann... just in different ways.
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This game was always going to be a blowout. A 15 win season will be a real win. This is the bottom and the beginning of a new era. The future will be much brighter and these young Buckeyes need oir support.
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