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Greg Schiano (DC New England Patriots)

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by ysubuck, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior


    The Co-___ / Assistant - ____ we've been trying to make work for ages, doesn't work. It also failed with Withers and Fickell, and it failed the offense too when we tried it with Warinner and Wilson. I was reading on 11W earlier about how we need to promote LJ and make him Co-DC, or hire back Coombs as Co-DC/Assistant HC, or so on and so forth.

    For the love of god - choose one guy to be DC, one guy to be LBs coach, and one to two guys to coach the secondary. If it's good enough for Bill Belichik and Nick Saban, it should be good enough for us too.
  2. NorthCoastKid

    NorthCoastKid Senior

    A five second Google search would tell you Alabama employed both a co-offensive and co-defensive coordinator this season. He employed two associate head coaches as well. Good enough for Saban, indeed.

    1926Buckeyes likes this.
  3. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    I have always interpreted the "co" stuff as a mechanism to reflect career status/affect pay moreso than some arbitrary way they have to share decision making/play calling.

    Chemistry, or lack thereof, of a coaching staff is an issue that has always been there and will always be there. Something was clearly off this year on the defensive side but I don't think the titles have much to do with it.

    Who knows?
  4. redguard117

    redguard117 Senior

    He also only had 1 DC for 2008-2016 and 1 OC at a time for 2008-2015. Way to miss the point.
  5. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    I think there's something to this when I think of it. To me we just look confused on defense and I think having one voice/leader could really help.
    lvbuckeye likes this.
  6. 1926Buckeyes

    1926Buckeyes Senior

    I don't think Co- matters nearly as much as it's made out to. Fickell and Ash were co-DCs, as were Fickell and Schiano. It worked out quite well. My concern is about the staff dynamics and how the message is being taught across all position groups.
    Hstead and NorthCoastKid like this.
  7. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    It might totally be a cohesion issue, both are highly regarded defensive coaches but maybe just don't mesh. But I really don't see GS being here beyond a year because you are right, he will want to be a head coach sooner rather than would probably be that time but he is not a hot commodity after this season.
  8. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Just... Go. Thanks, but... Go. I'm ready to live and die on defense with our athletes (Borland & Co. notwithstanding) and Grinch's purported aggressive, attacking style as long as they'll also wrap up and tackle.
    buckeyboy likes this.
  9. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Not you Jack.

    Jaxbuck likes this.
  10. woofermazing

    woofermazing Senior

    TS10HTW, Hstead, kujirakira and 4 others like this.
  11. scarletngray

    scarletngray Gold Pants

    I really think that we have lost so much talent and maturity on the defensive side of the ball that it finally caught up to us this year. Bosa going down and Coombs leaving was also a big blow. If Schiano leaves that will be yet another change. I liked Coach Days comment about the D playing sound and simple. This is what we need more than anything imho.
    BuckeyeSoldier and Thump like this.
  12. Onebuckfan

    Onebuckfan classof76

    SIMPLE and sound. We have the talent, we needto optimize it ,,be flexible. quit trying to put square pegs in round holes.
    scarletngray likes this.
  13. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 Urban Renewal Project

    Honestly, I'm ok with a full on "fresh blood -youth movement" on this staff - sans LJ. Bring on the the smartest, freshest minds in college football and pay them to stay. Then add about 15 "advisors" to solidify the entire thing. Bama keeps doing it and they keep getting invited to the fucking CFP. Let's move forward into the next era of great OSU defenses.
    kujirakira and Thump like this.
  14. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    Nothing? Not even people making up things and then arguing against them?
  15. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member


    Zero scholarship seniors on D.


    There is more to it than that. But there is that.

    Still - Grinch needs to have his day, but we need to get thru early signing period before we disrupt the coaching staff more than we already have.
    brodybuck21 and scarletngray like this.

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