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Half the distance to the goal

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shitlap, did you get run over by the dumbfuck truck when you were young?
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Mili, I needed that laugh about right now.

Hey Skippylabs. Please stop posting in this thread. You have screwed the pooch to next month on this one. Save yourself and save us from anymore on this topic, please. The pain inflicted on everyone's intellect who has read this thread is worthy of the famous "Oh the humanity!" line.

Try a different thread but before you start a thread with another hypothetical situation, please PM DiHard first with what you are planning to do.
 
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Perhaps I should talk about a specific case. Suppose the ball is touching your own goal line because you have just made a goal line stand on 4th and inches. Would you try and draw the defense offsides? The possible benifit is a 5 yard penalty that results in a first and 5 on the 5 yard line. The possible cost is a zero yard penalty because you can't possibly move any closer to the goal. In this case it makes perfect sense to risk a zero yard penalty for a chance of a first and 5 from the 5 yard line. Do teams ever do things like this? Are they pussies? Didn't New England do something simular last year during the playoffs? They had 4th and less then five from the 35 yard line. The lined up to kick a field goal and had a lineman make an unusual but legal shift. The oppents jumped offsides because of the shift and New England got the first down. I don't think they would have kick a field goal. I think they would have taken a delay of game penalty if the opponent hadn't jumped offsides. They were just trying to draw a penalty, those pussy world champs that they are. The next part of my question is if you don't get the penalty on the first play do you repeat the process until a penalty is called? I have learned today that the answer is no because of Article 3, section b.
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hahaha....yeah those 2 situations are even similar :lol:

the patriots would probably have done that once...then punted. youre suggesting the team with the ball on the goal line would just keep taking the penalty over and over.

aside from the terrible example...you say that the defense will eventually jump offsides. well genius, thats 5 yards. now its first and 5 on the 5. youre still in the shadow of your own goal posts. then your idiotic "take a penalty" play will put you back on the 2, then the 1, then the half............

and aside from all that, you defended your statement and THEN posted why you now realize that it wouldnt work. whats the point?

They were just trying to draw a penalty, those pussy world champs that they are.
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oh yeah....and the patriots are pussies. they fumbled against the raiders, they cheated the clock against the colts, and now they have the whatever game in a row win streak that they think is greater than the dolphins. heres the thing about what the dolphins did. IT WAS THE SAME TEAM.

plus, theres no way tom brady isnt a fag. if he isnt on the cover of fags monthly with jason giambi and kevin brown its because he hides it too well....not because he isnt a fag. have you ever seen a straight guy celebrate the way he does?
 
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smithlabs said:
Why exactly would they punt? If multiple penalties are allowed than it would still be first down. Repeat penalties until defense makes a mistake. It is a statistical necessity that the defense will commint a penalty given enough time.....I think the dumbest thing I have heard is your idea to punt of first down.
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Alright, douche-nozzle, explain to us "unenlightened" why exactly it is a "statistical necessity" that the defense will commit a penalty. Not that the phrase "statistical necessity" even makes sense here, but I get what you're trying to say. It's just that what you're trying to say makes about as much sense as you posting here in the first place.....none at all.

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Thank you for the answer. I thought I found a loophole but it has been closed in Article 3, section b. I have been asking this question for some time and I have never heard that answer. Usually people try to ignore the idea at first because it is so far out of the box. However, without Article 3, section b taking multiple fouls that can be penalized only by havling the distance to the goal line make logical sense.
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No, it doesn't make any sense at all. You're still trying to justify the offense committing multiple penalties by ASSUMING the defense will commit a penalty. And this isn't exactly "thinking so far out of the box". It is more commonly referred to as "thinking with your head up your ass."

smithlabs said:
Perhaps I should talk about a specific case. Suppose the ball is touching your own goal line because you have just made a goal line stand on 4th and inches. Would you try and draw the defense offsides? The possible benifit is a 5 yard penalty that results in a first and 5 on the 5 yard line. The possible cost is a zero yard penalty because you can't possibly move any closer to the goal. In this case it makes perfect sense to risk a zero yard penalty for a chance of a first and 5 from the 5 yard line. Do teams ever do things like this?
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Yeah, teams do stuff like this all the time. But that wasn't your original question. There's nothing wrong with taking a shot at a penalty....but committing a penalty over and over? Also, in this little dumbass hypothetical situation you've concocted, let's just say it works, and now you have the ball 1st and 5 on your own five yard line. What do you do now? Refer back to your original question, which was to commit multiple penalties if you have the ball on your own five yard line? :slappy:

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Are they pussies? Didn't New England do something simular last year during the playoffs? They had 4th and less then five from the 35 yard line. The lined up to kick a field goal and had a lineman make an unusual but legal shift. The oppents jumped offsides because of the shift and New England got the first down. I don't think they would have kick a field goal. I think they would have taken a delay of game penalty if the opponent hadn't jumped offsides. They were just trying to draw a penalty, those pussy world champs that they are. The next part of my question is if you don't get the penalty on the first play do you repeat the process until a penalty is called? I have learned today that the answer is no because of Article 3, section b. Smithlabs
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Do you even watch football? Trying to draw the defense offsides is a normal occurrence. Committing multiple penalties which would do nothing but eventually force you to punt from the back of your own endzone is just idiotic (like your posts). And, since you apparently can't read either, no, you wouldn't be forced to punt on first down. But you would be forced to punt, eventually. Or, considering the rules, maybe the ref would just pull your faggoty shirt over your faggoty head and kick your faggoty ass for being such a pussy.
 
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BuckeyeFROMscUM said:
Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks
Lightning.... I'll refer you to my post count. I clearly know more than you.

Am I the only one that thinks these guys are compensating for something? Obviously one can learn a lot from spending time on these forums and participating in the discussions, but the claim that your wisdom is equivalent to your post count is ridiculous.

That's like saying that smithlabs would get smarter once he had posted retarded crap like this many more times.

Also, NCAA 2005 is a phenomenal game, but it really isn't difficult at all to continuously win titles, heismans, etc. I know a lot of people who are horrible at the game that are capable of doing this.
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Way to jump right in to the fray, sport. Of course I wasn't being serious about my post count - just like I wasn't being serious about my NCAA2004 prowess. However, my post count is actually compensation for my freakishly small penis.
 
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Mr. Smithlabs, what you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Nice, I see life revolves around Billy Madison for you also. Adam Sandler rules...
 
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Alright, douche-nozzle, explain to us "unenlightened" why exactly it is a "statistical necessity" that the defense will commit a penalty.
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I wouldn't take that kid to Vegas with me... I don't think he understands the odds.

Smithlabs- If you're playing Roulette... and it lands on red, what is it going to land on next time?
 
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Do you guys get stuck in the shower when you are washing your hair? The instructions on the shampoo say lather, rinse and repeat. How do you ever get out of the shower if you keep repeating washing your hair? The same logic that allows you to stop washing your hair applies for multiple penalties on your own goal line. Once you move out to the five yard line you no longer commint penalties. Why? Becuase you are PAST the five yard line.

What is a statistical necessity? When I was getting my undergraduate degree in Physics (at Adolfius Smith Lab at The Ohio State University) I heard the following explanation during my thermodynamics course. If their is an infinite number of chances of event with finite probability occurring than the event will occur. The event is a statistical necessity. In football terms, if you get to try an infinite number of times to get the defense to commit a penalty the defense will eventually commit a penalty. How do you get to try an infinate number of times? You get to try an ifinate number of times if you are within the five yard line (notice <5, not < or = to 5) and the only penalty you get is half the distance to the goal. You will eventually get positive yardage in the exchange. Notice in this situation there is no mention of loss of downs or forfeiture of the game. If you want to slam me that’s fine but at least read and understand the question. The NCAA rules committee realized that the issue of multiple penalties resulting in half the distance to the goal was an interesting loophole and wrote a sections that specifically addressed this issue.


Here is another question for you all. What is the indefinite integral of d(cabin)/cabin? That’s right, a natural log cabin. If you don’t get this joke perhaps you don’t understand infinity as well as you think you do. In that case, I can understand your confusion over a question that, at its core, addresses infinity.


In any case, thanks for the clarification on the rules.

Smithlabs
 
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I think I brained my damage.

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