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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

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shetuck said:
My feed, which already had been up-and-down, finally fully died just before the three-minute mark. That was just before the punt. I thought for sure Day would go for it. I was telling everybody: ok, here's the game and season... all we need is 4 yards and one pin, Rodney! Next thing I see on the TV is a frozen shot of JF with his hands covering his face... worst feeling ever!
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Last thing I saw too then I turned the TV off... I refuse to watch such an inferior program celebrate.
 
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shetuck said:
Yep... the odds were in our favor. But why not take another snap and burn a little more clock? He'd still get the punt he wanted if we didn't convert. Sure, the defense would have to stop Clemson from going 70+ yards instead of 90+, but that couldn't have been the deciding factor.

Of all the missed calls / bad calls / what-ifs / dropped passes / blown routes / etc etc etc, this one call is really the one that haunts me. It's the one outcome we really could have controlled, and we had plenty of time to think it through. But, the Coach went another way and chose to give the ball back to the team that had basically scored 21 straight points. I can't really blame him, and I'm not questioning his strategy, but I don't really understand either.
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Going for it on 4th down wouldn't run any clock if they didn't convert. Change of possession would stop the clock at the end of the play.
 
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Systems_id said:
True but I honestly don't blame Day for the call. Got exactly the punt he wanted and the defense was playing well all game. I don't think anyone has driven 90+ yards on this defense all year. Played the odds and he got burned. It happens.
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If it had been the exact punt we wanted it would have bounced sideways off the guys leg, so the Buckeyes could recover it. :smash:
 
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BB73 said:
Going for it on 4th down wouldn't run any clock if they didn't convert. Change of possession would stop the clock at the end of the play.
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Only in the case of an incomplete pass. In the case of some kind of a run or a draw or a sneak, some clock would have been used up.

EDIT: @BB73 maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
 
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shetuck said:
Only in the case of an incomplete pass. In the case of some kind of a run or a draw or a sneak, some clock would have been used up.

EDIT: @BB73 maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
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Any play on fourth down would use up a few seconds, but if the play doesn't get a first down, the clock stops right away, regardless of complete/incomplete, in bounds, whatever. Change of possession after a fourth down play is an immediate clock stoppage when the play is over.
 
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Systems_id said:
True but I honestly don't blame Day for the call. Got exactly the punt he wanted and the defense was playing well all game. I don't think anyone has driven 90+ yards on this defense all year. Played the odds and he got burned. It happens.
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Yeah. If they had gotten a better gain on 3rd and it's 1-2 yards, I say go, but I think they were on the ~38? Something like that. In a 1 point game it'd be a lot to ask your D to hold them to less than 30 yards. It's a big risk.
 
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1926Buckeyes said:
Yeah. If they had gotten a better gain on 3rd and it's 1-2 yards, I say go, but I think they were on the ~38? Something like that. In a 1 point game it'd be a lot to ask your D to hold them to less than 30 yards. It's a big risk.
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This.

Thinking through it, and reading all the responses, I think this is what it came down to. Day had to choose between the Offense and the Defense, and he chose to hitch his hopes on the Defense. Given how things played out this year I guess he figured the odds are with the Defense.
 
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shetuck said:
This.

Thinking through it, and reading all the responses, I think this is what it came down to. Day had to choose between the Offense and the Defense, and he chose to hitch his hopes on the Defense. Given how things played out this year I guess he figured the odds are with the Defense.
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Wrong choice Lawerence vs a defense without Wade and 0 sacks. Or the O with You(Day) and JF our best player. That series should have been called as 4 downs for 10 yds. 4 runs.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
Wrong choice Lawerence vs a defense without Wade and 0 sacks. Or the O with You(Day) and JF our best player. That series should have been called as 4 downs for 10 yds. 4 runs.
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I mean I still feel like this is a hindsight call. Clemson had only driven the length of the field without the aid of penalties once even after Wade went down until that point.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
Calling for the punt block was, to me, the single worst decision of the game. Not running Dobbins on 1st and goal on multiple occasions comes next.
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Thing is that, if the punt block works, that's a HUGE momentum swing during a time when the Buckeyes needed it most. I was initially annoyed Day didn't run on 1st and goal but I recall Day having Venables completely outfoxed on a couple of them.
 
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