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Herm Edwards (You play to win the game!)

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LoKyBuckeye

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I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
Stories going around that Herm is headed West.....

Source: Edwards headed to K.C.
Thursday, January 05, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON AND PAUL NEEDELL
Star-Ledger Staff

Herman Edwards will become the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, perhaps as early as today, a person familiar with the situation told The Star-Ledger late last night.

Jets general manager Terry Bradway and Chiefs president/GM Carl Peterson spent yesterday negotiating a compensation package for the rights to Edwards, who still has two years remaining on his contract with the Jets.

The Jets are believed to have requested a second-round pick in April's draft. The Chiefs do not want to go higher than a third-round selection. A first-round pick is not a possibility.

The NFL must approve the deal before it can be official. If the teams cannot reach an agreement, they will ask the league to arbitrate, which is standard league procedure. Regardless, Edwards will not return to the Jets.

"This is what's best for everybody," the source said.

Bradway could not be reached for comment last night and Edwards did not return phone calls.

When a compensation deal is reached, the Chiefs are not expected to have any difficulty coming to an agreement on a deal with Edwards, who began his coaching career in Kansas City.

Dick Vermeil retired last weekend after five years as coach of the Chiefs to create the opening.

Officials within the Jets have said they were willing to part ways with Edwards after his latest request for a contract extension and a raise. Some people in the Jets' front office said they have grown tired of Edwards' contract requests. This is the second time in four seasons Edwards has asked for an extension. Both times he was coming off losing seasons, including the recently completed 4-12 season.

The Jets have played the compensation game before.

In 1997, they gave the Patriots a first-, second-, third- and fourth-round pick for Bill Parcells. In 2000, the Jets received a first-, fourth- and seventh-round pick from the Patriots to give up Bill Belichick.

After a 10-year NFL career, Edwards went to Kansas City to work in the Chiefs' player personnel department and later became a defensive backs coach. He spent six seasons with the Chiefs and is close to Peterson and Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt.

In five seasons with the Jets, Edwards compiled a 39-41 record with three playoff appearances. In 2004, the Jets reached the AFC divisional playoff round.

Before choosing their next coach, the Jets will have to decide on the future of Bradway, who came to the club with Edwards.

The list of potential successors to Edwards includes Jets coordinators Donnie Henderson (defense) and Mike Heimerdinger (offense), recently fired coaches Jim Haslett (Saints) and Mike Sherman (Packers), and current NFL coordinators Al Saunders (Chiefs, offense), Gary Kubiak (Broncos, offense) and Ron Rivera (Bears, defense).

Peterson, according to several published reports, had two days of interviews this week with Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel. It is believed that Fassel, the former Giants coach, also would be a candidate for the Jets job.

The Jets have a previously scheduled news conference involving Edwards and Bradway for this morning at 11.
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Chiefs and Jets Agree on Compensation for Edwards Move

Looks like its all done bar the paperwork and Edwards new contract in KC.
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Friday, January 6, 2006
 Edwards free to move to Chiefs
<hr noshade="noshade" size="1" width="100%"> By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Only the unlikely scenario under which the two sides do not strike a contract agreement will keep New York Jets coach Herman Edwards from moving on to the Kansas City Chiefs in the same capacity, ESPN.com has learned. <inline1></inline1> The two teams late Thursday agreed on compensation that will free Edwards from the two years remaining on his Jets contract. Under the agreement, the Jets will receive a fourth-round pick in the 2006 draft. The two franchises had been haggling for days. <!-- ap graf --> Chiefs spokesman Bob Moore said that Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson was on his way to New York to begin negotiations. The commissioner's office approved the fourth-round pick as compensation earlier Friday morning and granted Kansas City permission to speak with Edwards, who technically remains the head coach of the Jets. Given the lengthy mating dance, and the obvious mutual interest, a contract could be agreed upon quickly. Negotiations between the Jets and Chiefs lurched forward on Thursday evening after a long day of inertia, confusion and acrimony. By late night, sources told ESPN.com, the two sides had reached a compensation accord. ESPN.com reported Thursday that the Jets, who clearly no longer wanted Edwards to remain as coach, at one point Thursday imposed a 6 p.m. deadline for completing the agreement with Kansas City. The Jets were prepared, if the deadline passed, to announce that Edwards had requested to be released from his contract. But just before the deadline, discussions resumed with the Chiefs. Meanwhile, sources close to Edwards told ESPN.com on Thursday that the coach had not requested to be released from his contract, which runs through the 2007 season. "Herm Edwards is not resigning," agent Gary O'Hagan told ESPN.com, emphatically, on Thursday evening. "He plans to work out the final two years of his contract." Beyond that, O'Hagan declined comment, other than to reiterate he has been involved in no discussions with Peterson. His only dialogue, O'Hagan said, has been with his client and with Jets officials. O'Hagan said that reports Edwards was "out" as the Jets coach were not true. On an unusual day, Edwards acted as if it were business as usual, and was at the team complex putting in a full work day. Still, semantics aside, it has become increasingly clear that, given the prolonged mating dance with the Chiefs, there is little chance Edwards can remain with the Jets for 2006. New York officials, as reported by ESPN.com on Wednesday evening, have grown both wary and weary of Edwards' perceived flirtations with a Kansas City franchise for which he previously worked. The mind-set inside the Jets complex, one team source told ESPN.com on Wednesday and Thursday, is that if Edwards doesn't want to stick around, then it would be better that he leave. One way or another, it appears, Edwards will not be back. If a deal with the Chiefs can't be struck, the Jets may be forced to fire Edwards. Jets officials already have begun drawing up a list of potential replacements. One other NFL franchise, which has not been identified, has made inquiries about Edwards but has not formally opened talks with the Jets and is believed to now be moving in another direction for a new head coach. ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported earlier Thursday that Peterson was reluctant to agree to a compensation package based on sentiment around the NFL that the frustrated Jets might eventually fire Edwards. Under that scenario, any franchise could hire Edwards without having to compensate the Jets. In his five seasons with the Jets, Edwards has compiled a 41-46 record and taken the team to the playoffs three times and won one division title. His salary, about $2 million per year, ranks in the bottom quadrant of head coaches. Facing a major rebuilding program, it is believed Edwards has sought a salary increase and possibly a contract extension. Among the potential candidates to replace Edwards, if he does depart, is former New Orleans coach Jim Haslett, dismissed earlier this week. But a Jets official told ESPN.com that, while there is some interest in Haslett, most of the dialogue has been initiated by his agent. And the official conceded that hiring a coach who had a worse record in 2005 than Edwards would be a difficult sell to Jets fans. Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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The Man said:
Good for Herm. More $$ and alot better team. NYJ are in big trouble on offense especially QB and RB and KC is a few defensive players from being a top flight team.
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Here is an interesting contrarian position from Peter King at Si.com (LINK)

Perilous move

Edwards leaving Jets for Chiefs is bad for the NFL

Posted: Monday January 9, 2006 12:24AM; Updated: Monday January 9, 2006 12:44PM

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Herman Edwards is reportedly bolting from the Jets to the Chiefts. The move will cost K.C. a fourth-round draft pick.
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>"I'm going to be here. No question about it. We got a big job to do here and I'm going to work hard to get it done.''
-- Jets coach Herman Edwards, to me, in November.
"I addressed that six weeks ago. I still stand on what I said. I'm the coach of the Jets. The season will end and we'll try to get things going in the right direction. I've always been happy here. I like it here.''
-- Jets coach Herman Edwards, at a Dec. 29 press conference.
"You know they've got to have something to write. I'm going to be here.''
-- Jets coach Herman Edwards, to me, on Dec. 29.
FOXBORO, Mass. -- What on earth is going on in this league?
Forget for a moment the lack of honor from Edwards, who on Sunday reportedly agreed to a four-year, $12 million contract to coach the Kansas City Chiefs. Think instead of the impact of what he's done, and what the Chiefs have done by trading a fourth-round pick (a four!) to acquire Edwards from the Jets.
This idiotic, tail-wagging-dog story raises four disturbing questions.
1. Why is it still permissible for a coach with years left on his contract to orchestrate, either tacitly or not, his exit from a team?
2. Why didn't Jets owner Woody Johnson say: "Herm, I'm not doubling your salary after you went 4-12 this year. You're going to have to suck it up and work for the $2 million agreed upon in your contract.''
Players work under contracts they don't like all the time. I'm sure coaches do too. Edwards should have done the same.
I understand that by the end Johnson was ticked off at Edwards and not in the mood to give him anything. But the message should have been sent unwaveringly to Edwards and his representative months ago by Johnson that the contract was not going to be redone.
3. Why is the league sitting idly by and basically allowing coaches to be traded for draft choices? Is it in the best interests of the league for a coach with a perfectly valid contract to be traded? And to be traded for the absurdly low price of a fourth-round draft pick? Do you honestly think the value of a coach who has led his team to the playoffs in three of his five seasons is worth a four? That's absurd enough. But the NFL, in letting a trade like this to happen, is prolonging a practice that is slowly but surely become a sordid, greedy part of the NFL.
What's to stop Houston owner Bob McNair, who has more money than God, from nudging BillBelichick's agent, winking and saying: "You know, I really like Bill. He's such a great coach.'' All of a sudden, Belichick tells Bob Kraft after the season: "I don't want to work here anymore unless you pay me $9 million a year.'' We'd all be naïve to think something like that would never cross Belichick's mind if he thought he could have a better deal somewhere else.
4. Why didn't the Jets charge the Chiefs with tampering? Could it possibly be because Chiefs president Carl Peterson is the mentor and former boss of Jets GM Terry Bradway? Bradway, in this case, is the steward of an NFL franchise, not Peterson's pal. It is absurd and borderline irresponsible that the Jets got a fourth-round pick as compensation. They could have gotten more by charging the Chiefs with tampering.
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When the league investigated tampering charges involving Dick Vermeil and the Chiefs five years ago -- charges brought by the Rams after Vermeil retired with time left on his contract -- the resulting fight between organizations, plus the desperation of the Chiefs to have their man, led to a second- and third-round draft pick for Vermeil. Maybe the Jets wouldn't have gotten a two and a three for Edwards. But if the price for Vermeil was a two and a three, and the price for Jon Gruden was two ones, two twos and $8 million, don't insult my intelligence by telling me the market value for Edwards was a fourth-round pick.
I've heard the commissioner talk about tampering, and the league says it will vigorously punish anyone at the merest hint of the transgression. Ooooh, NFL owners are so scared. Look at what happened to the Redskins in the Lawyer Milloy case a couple of years ago. Milloy, after moving from New England to Buffalo, said his agent had talked to the Redskins before the Patriots released him. The Patriots charged Washington with tampering, but the league never found anything. What I concluded from that "investigation'' is that someone didn't want tampering to be discovered, and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
What has happened here is an outrage. Pure and simple. Whether Herman Edwards should be making more than $2 million a year is not the issue. (He probably should be, of course.) The issue is Edwards had a valid contract, and somehow he engineered his way out of it. Shame on him, the Jets ownership, Bradway and the league for allowing it to happen. The question now is not whether another team will be torn asunder by a coach who feels he's underpaid. It's when.
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Talk about walking out of an elephant-shit storm and into a shower with Jessica Alba...

The Chiefs are in great shape right now, especially if theyt can snare one or two good players on D...the Jets (or Jests) on the other hand...are in big trouble.
 
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This sucks bad. I'm a Jets fan and he was the best thing we had going for us. Were short on players due to injury, but most of them in Positions that are available in the upcomming draft. Especially since thier record last year they should be able to pick up a quality player or 2 especially in the RB and QB departments (as long as they don't pick up Vick) Pennington is an OK QB but is injury prone. Curtis Martin has suffered his first major injury of his career but it's come so late in his career that I se him as only being with the team 1-2 more years so it might be time to bring in a youngster and let him settle into the league. Regardless it sucks we're losing Herm he'll will be hard to replace.
 
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What a strange move by the Chiefs hiring a below .500 coach. Herm Edwards has that play not to lose attitude, especially in the playoffs. This move did not improve their team by hiring an average head coach. Things aren't as rosey as they seem for the Chiefs anyways. Their defense is still no good even with big time free agent moves in the 2005 off season. The offense is getting old fast. All of their top line players on offense are over 30 expect for Larry Johnson and their receiving corp is average at best.
 
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scarletandgrey said:
I don't know if I like those options or not....:ohwell:
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. Don't blame you. Ty Law has been campaigning for Mangini since he knows him from the Pat days. At least the NYJ won't hire the O-coord. off the worst offense in the NFL last year as their HC. The Pack beat you to McCarthy from the 9ers. Mike Mularkey just resigned in Buffalo so maybe he will get into the mix.
 
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