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Hoops coach punished for 'Crybaby Award'

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by LoKyBuckeye, May 7, 2004.

  1. LoKyBuckeye

    LoKyBuckeye I give up. This board is too hard to understand. Staff Member

    This guy is a teacher... :shake:

    Associated Press
    PLEASANTVILLE, N.J. -- A basketball coach who gave a 13-year-old player a "Crybaby Award" will be banned from coaching, sent to sensitivity training and ordered to make a public apology.

    Schools superintendent Edwin Coyle revealed the punishments Wednesday. Whether the coach loses his job remains to be seen.

    James Guillen, 24, a third-year special education teacher at the Pleasantville Middle School, had a trophy made up showing an infant atop a pedestal, with a plaque bearing the inscription of player Terrence Philo Jr. and the words "Crybaby Award.''

    Terrence was spelled "Terrance."

    After summoning the boy to attend the April 24 season-ending banquet, Guillen gave him the trophy, humiliating him in front of about 25 teammates and parents.

    On Tuesday, the nine-member Pleasantville Board of Education voted to fire Guillen, rejecting Coyle's recommendation for lighter sanctions.

    But state law mandates that hiring and firing recommendations come from the superintendent, not board members.

    As a result, the vote to dismiss Guillen wasn't valid, according to Frank Belluscio, a spokesman for the New Jersey School Boards Association.

    "It's not binding. It's not proper procedure," Belluscio said.

    Coyle, who said dismissal would be too severe a punishment, said he would ban Guillen from ever coaching in Pleasantville schools and order the sensitivity training and public apology.

    In addition, Guillen will be ordered to hold the banquet again and give Philo the trophy other players received. A veteran teacher also will be assigned to mentor Guillen.

    Coyle said he would ask the board a second time to authorize a five-day suspension without pay and the forfeiture of a $3,000 pay raise due to Guillen.

    The boy's father, Terrence Philo, said he would leave the penalty to school officials.

    "I just want what's right. I want my son to have a trophy and certificate like everyone else got. No less, no more," he said.

    Guillen, who has yet to speak publicly about the incident, remains on the job as a special education teacher at the school.
     
  2. The thing that is most bizzare about this, he is a Special Needs teacher.
     
  3. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    people need to lighten up....sure it was mean, but come on. get thicker skin. of course...thats why he got the award in the first place
     
  4. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    I cannot believe the coach did that... however, the kid must have been a pain in the rear, and the coach got the kid back... I thought is was really funny, and can only imagine what the kid did to get it...
     
  5. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    Whether the kid deserved it or not the coach should have known better than to pull a dumbass stunt like that.
     
  6. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Not sure this is the right route...seems like it would be more embarrassing


    This is a 13 year old kid we are talking about...This was plain stupid on the coach's part. If it was an inside joke on the team that might be understandable, but to humiliate the kid in front of his peers is plain cruel. This guy is a disgrace to coaches.
     
  7. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Holding the banquet again is absolutely moronic. The crybaby kid should get the same trophies and stuff as did other team members, but his also getting the crybaby award wasn't that "humiliating". Actually, that award should go to the sissy fucking crybabies on the board that voted to fire him. Pansies.
     
  8. Buckeye69

    Buckeye69 A.K.A. IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY

    The father needs a trophy too.
     
  9. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    It's not humiliating to an adult but for a thirteen year old it could be. It's hard to say without knowing the coach or the kid. I've had coaches that were big time dicks that got a hardon screaming and humiliating kids, and I've had coaches that were all business, didn't take anything less than your best, and would give you a verbal beating when you weren't performing up to par. Without being close to the situation it's hard to say what kind of coach this guy is. My guess is that he's a big dick. If one of my coaches tried that stunt on me when I was 13 my dad would have probably broke him down like a shotgun. But then again my dad didn't raise a little bitch.
     
  10. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    "If one of my coaches tried that stunt on me when I was 13 my dad would have probably broke him down like a shotgun. But then again my dad didn't raise a little bitch."

    exactly. the kid and the dad are both little bitches. a) he didnt just get the award for no reason. he probly sucked and whined when he didnt get in. b) he probly got his suckiness and his whineyness from his sucky whiny dad...who shouldve taken it up with the coach instead of the school board or principal or whoever.
     
  11. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    If the coach had any sense or guts, he would have handled it within the framework of the team. Kid whines too much...run the piss out of him. Dad complains about it...tell him to take his kid home. Playing sports for a school is a privilege..not a right. The coach should have taken care of the issues long ago instead of waiting until a banquet and then taking a cowardly swipe at a kid. That is what I call being a bitch.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2004
  12. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Playing sports for a school is a privilege..not a right. The coach should have taken care of the issues long ago instead of waiting until a banquet and then taking a cowardly swipe at a kid. That is what I call being a bitch.

    Unfortunately, today's society says that everything is a right, including participation in organized sports. Hell, look at little leagues now. Everyone "makes the team"...no one gets cut. Everyone gets to play, As a result, the teams suck and parents get pissed that their kid's team doesn't win, or that their kid wasn't the featured star.

    There is nothing wrong with a little "negative" award. The Air Force Academy has their "Tail End Charlie" award for the student who finished at the bottom of his/her graduating class, and I wouldn;t be surprised if West Point and Annapolis both have similar awards. Even here at work we have the "Bonehead Award" (which I've received) for technicians who've made stupid mistakes (mine was for pulling out a server which didn't have its power cable secured in a cable harness, subsequently knocking it off line).
     
  13. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    yeah...youre right grad. i coach girls bball and the parents are insanely stupid sometimes. the good thing is, i dont care if a) their parents bitch or b) i get fired...cuz its a volunteer dealie and they arent gonna find somebody else to take it.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2004
  14. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Mili I can see your point with the negative awards, but I disagree when handling kids at that age. The awards you named were motivational tools in one way or another...study harder/think before you act. My only problem is the coach doing this at the banquet...hell he could have taught the kid something useful for later life, but instead the kid was bailed out by the father and learns nothing nor is his whining solved.
     
  15. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    grad: I disagree that he learned nothing because his dad bailed him out. You don't think he'll think about why he got "the award" in the first place? He may not quit being a crybaby, but I'd bet he'll at least be less of a crybaby now.
     

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