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I'd like to thank the Lord Jesus...

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by vrbryant, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

    ...for granting me my wish. Just goes to show that if you pray hard enough for something, it eventually will come to fruition.

    ___
    Sources: Warner's release planned after June 1
    By Len Pasquarelli
    ESPN.com

    Two-time NFL most valuable player Kurt Warner, whose career deteriorated over the past two seasons because of a series of injuries and inconsistency, will be released by the St. Louis Rams after June 1, league and team sources have confirmed to ESPN.com.

    The six-year veteran, who authored one of the greatest success stories in recent league history, was apprised of the move on Monday by team officials. The Rams also granted Warner and his representatives permission to begin talking with other teams, although the quarterback won't technically be freed from his contract for at least six more weeks.

    Despite a spate of non-denial denials from team officials this offeason, the decision to cut ties with Warner is hardly surprising. St. Louis is currently in negotiations with the agents for three-year veteran Marc Bulger on a long-term contract and this month signed veteran Chris Chandler to serve as a backup.

    The move will free up approximately $4.85 million in 2004 cap room for the Rams. The club will still have to carry $4.61 million in so-called "dead money," cap room devoted to a player no longer on the roster, against its spending limit for 2004. Warner's current cap number, however, is a whopping $9.467 million, an exorbitant amount for a player who was not going to win the starting job.

    St. Louis will also have to absorb a cap hit of $6.723 million in 2005. Warner is under contract through the 2006 campaign.

    The Rams also will likely select a quarterback in this weekend's draft.

    Warner, 32, proved an incredible rags-to-riches tale. The one-time journeyman out of Northern Iowa emerged from stints in the Arena Football League and the NFL Europe League to lead St. Louis to a Super Bowl XXXIV victory in 1999. He captured league MVP honors that season and also in 2001.

    But injuries caught up to Warner the past two seasons, his playing time was reduced and his productivity waned. He started only one game in 2003 and made two appearances.

    His career includes 1,121 completions in 1,688 attempts, for 14,447 yards, with 102 touchdown passes and 65 interceptions.

    Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
     
  2. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

  3. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

    Associated Press

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Don't expect Kurt Warner to find his next home with the coach that gave him his break in the NFL.

    Vermeil, who embraced Warner as his starter in St. Louis after No. 1 quarterback Trent Green injured his knee before the 1999 season, has reluctantly decided not to pursue Warner as a backup for current team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

    "We can't afford to," Vermeil said. "I don't question his ability to play at all. But we have a No. 1 and a No. 2 quarterback and we can't afford to put the money into a No. 3 guy."

    With Vermeil as his coach, Warner led the St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl title after taking over for Green. The two-time MVP also took the Rams to the Super Bowl two years later, after Vermeil had spent a year in retirement and then moved to Kansas City.

    Mark Bartelstein, Warner's agent, said Monday the Rams had told him they would give him his release after June 1.

    Green, now the Kansas City starter, combined with running back Priest Holmes to give the Chiefs the No. 2 offense in the NFL last year during a 13-3 regular-season campaign. He averaged almost 250 yards passing and was named to his first Pro Bowl.

    Whatever salary cap room the Chiefs can find will be devoted to defense, where the Chiefs ranked 29th last year.

    "Another time, another day, I would have been interested in acquiring (Warner)," Vermeil said. "I never second-guess what another team does with their people and especially with the Rams because I know those people and care about them. But (Warner) is only 32. I can't believe he can't play. But it's a difficult situation.

    "With today's salary cap, you can't pay two starters. I feel bad. He took the team to the Super Bowl twice. I think all pro teams would like to have a player who's done that stay with them his entire career. But it just didn't work. It didn't work that way with Joe Montana either. He finished his career with Kansas City."

    Vermeil predicted the NFL had not heard the last of Warner.

    "Kurt Warner will wind up with another team and he'll play well," he said.


    I really really hope nobody signs him, and he goes back to bagging groceries where he belongs. Or better yet, he goes to a team like Tampa Bay or Tennessee where he won't have the kind of system that allows average QBs to become MVPs.
     
  4. Buckeye1

    Buckeye1 Junior

    Kurt Warner

    vrbryant, what do you have against Kurt Warner?
     
  5. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

    Itemized, for your convenience:

    1) He was one of the most overrated athletes of all-time, in any sport.
    2) He would constantly be thanking Jesus for his accomplishments on the football field. Didn't offend me in the slightest - just made my stomach turn.
    3) His wife, and the media's propensity to show her ugly beak multiple times during games I was trying to watch. Not really his fault, but it doesn't mean it didn't contribute to my distaste for him.

    To put it very simply, he just wasn't my kind of player. I felt from the outset that the Kurt Warner of 1999-2001 was not the real Kurt Warner, and that feeling has been confirmed by his performance the last two seasons. Most of what I disliked about him wasn't his fault, actually. Every time some yo-yo would start jawing about how he was the greatest passer in the league or was a shoe-in for the HOF, it just added another log to the fire. Now that he's on the fast track back to the A&P, I wish him nothing but the best.
     
  6. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

  7. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

  8. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    i can understand not being a fan of kurt warner the football player......

    but...as a man...you've gotta like him....

    he had the cajones to jump in and be a complete father to two boys that are not biologically his and whos father had gone awol.....that takes balls....not to mention that one of the boys is legally blind....he is a phenomenal role model to those two boys and has rescued their lives.....now his family has extended....

    im sure his wife and two adopted sons THANK GOD EVERY DAY that kurt warner
    is a bigger man than those who are trying to rip him apart......

    football is nothing compared to being a great father........

    "He would constantly be thanking Jesus for his accomplishments on the football field. Didn't offend me in the slightest - just made my stomach turn."

    vrbryant....if that statement of your own doesnt make you re-examine things...nothing will...

    you argue that he has no talent....that he is overrated.....and you complain that he praises jesus too much...

    yet he is a two-time league MVP and wealthy beyond our means...


    MAYBE he has a reason to thank jesus for his NEW place in life....
     
  9. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    The NFL will be a much better place once filth like Warner is out of there. Get his sorry ass a grocery bag already.
     
  10. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    yeah....your right tibor....he hasnt killed anyone in the name of jihad yet....no wonder you dont like him.....
     
  11. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    Muhsin Mohammed is my type of guy.
     
  12. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    thats absolutely great....as his "name" stands for charitable.....and...this from nfl.com

    "Muhsin and his wife, Christa, have two daughters, Jordan Taylor and Chase Soen, and a son, Muhsin III, and live in Charlotte."

    so....let me expand....why again do people hammer warner.....you say you like mushin...but you are happy with warners difficulties.....but...you promote mushin as a person...when warner is every bit as good...just not in your faith...

    i just dont understand why people would wish ill will upon good family men (regardless of religion), yet heap praise on a POS like michael jordan, or magic, or kemp or any other non-family guy....
     
  13. Nixon

    Nixon Wears Scarlet-colored glasses

    I don't like Muhammad. He's from msu.
     
  14. Buckeye1

    Buckeye1 Junior

    Kurt Warner

    Tibor & vrbryant,
    I do not condemn you nor do I hate you for your deep rooted troublesome soul. However, I am sadden by your view of life and attitude toward others because of their faith. As Dihard said, Kurt is a great man who gratefully remembered his God blessed fortune by caring for two little boys who are in need of help. He thanks Jesus because he knows something you don't, and I pray someday you would because you are missing the greatest joy in life. By the way, he did not just do all this because he is now rich...he has been thanking Christ a long time before he got famous. I have a friend who is paralyzed for life, and she thanks Jesus every day.
     
  15. ashlandbuck

    ashlandbuck Banned

    vrbryant isn't a troubled soul.....He's a sick sociopath that enjoys downgrading various peoples and enjoys their misery.
    Actually, that sounds a lot like a 1940's Nazi.


    This guy is actually a moderator on this forum?...I'll soon be going back to Bucknuts.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2004

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