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Ideas for dealing with agents

It's an interesting idea, but there needs to be equal or more severe penalties for the agents that cause the players to lose their eligibility. You need to make the penalty worse for the supplier than the taker. Just like with drug dealing and illegal file sharing; you need to cut off the source moreso than the user. Otherwise you'll still have the agents dangling the cash in front of the players.
 
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My thoughts exactly. Sure, the players have to have some responsibility, but if someone dangled a multi-million dollar carrot in front of you, would you really have the will-power to resist that kind of money? Especially if you came from a not so well-off family to begin with. Heck, I've lived a pretty comfortable life and I know I would probably be swayed as well if someone dangled $5 million+ a year in front of me.
 
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scarletmike;1799751; said:
My thoughts exactly. Sure, the players have to have some responsibility, but if someone dangled a multi-million dollar carrot in front of you, would you really have the will-power to resist that kind of money? Especially if you came from a not so well-off family to begin with. Heck, I've lived a pretty comfortable life and I know I would probably be swayed as well if someone dangled $5 million+ a year in front of me.

The agents aren't dangling millions of dollars in front of these guys. In most cases it's just a couple thousand bucks here and there (Reggie Bush excepted). So, as a player, are you willing to take a 6-8 game suspension, losing game checks that could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, for a couple thousand dollars now?

But I do agree that you must go after the agents as well. Need to make it too risky to break the rules, up to and including losing their livelihood as a sports agent...
 
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Saw31;1799791; said:
The agents aren't dangling millions of dollars in front of these guys. In most cases it's just a couple thousand bucks here and there (Reggie Bush excepted). So, as a player, are you willing to take a 6-8 game suspension, losing game checks that could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, for a couple thousand dollars now?

But I do agree that you must go after the agents as well. Need to make it too risky to break the rules, up to and including losing their livelihood as a sports agent...

For most kids, most of which grew up in families whose households went paycheck to paycheck, a couple thousand dollars is a lot of money.

A few thousand dollars blows your mind when you aren't mature enough to think immediately of the negative consequences and instead get saucer sized eyes and go wild.
 
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All the BP lawyer types... what would keep an institution from suing an individual in these types of situations?

I've held for a while that U$C should sue Lake and friends for lost bowl revenue and other meaningful losses... Would be one solution.
 
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Well, we could do away with scholarships. Much as I love college football I know it's a corrupting influence. It distorts the purpose of education -- especially physical education. It has a negative impact on high school education. You end up telling kids that the best way to get into a good school is to work on athletics and not the books.

Let the NFL create their own farm system.
 
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NCAA: No suspensions for NFL rookies

The NCAA on Wednesday said suspensions for NFL rookies who accept extra benefits as college players "are not currently under consideration."
Multiple sources have said the idea of a suspension, in addition to financial penalties, had been discussed, mostly at the suggestion of college coaches, both during in-person and teleconference meetings of a panel assembled to address improper agent activity.
"The NFLPA is opposed to any penalty being imposed upon a player in the NFL for conduct relating to the receipt of benefits in violation of NCAA rules while the player was in college," the NFLPA said in a statement. "However, we will continue to discuss with the NCAA and others issues relating to the conduct of agents certified by the NFLPA as they interact with NCAA players."
The executive director of the American Football Coaches Association, Grant Teaff, said Wednesday that post-NCAA penalties for college players who receive extra benefits at the end of their college careers is "on the table."
Teaff said while the organization isn't "pushing" ideas, those that have been discussed include financial penalties and suspension.

Entire article: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5733652
 
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Esoteria;1800017; said:
You're assuming you know about it before they get drafted.


That's right. It only takes a few to get nailed before kids stop taking money for fear that they end up in Canada for a year or more... and agents realize that they can't make money off of kids who can't be drafted.

One could apply portfolio theory and spread the risk that one gets through to the draft across multiple kids... but in doing so, they assume greater risk of being nailed. I'd have to assume that the agents view the kids as a portfolio already...

In the end, make it so they all suffer...
 
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I am not sure that the NFL cares whether or not a licensed agent gets involved with a NCAA athlete.

What does the NFL have to lose? They want kids that can come in and "make plays" and increase ticket sales for those teams that are lacking.

Not sure how you can really get after the agents and hurt the kids without hurting the NFL...hence no real reprimand.
 
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ScriptOhio;1800694; said:
The NCAA on Wednesday said suspensions for NFL rookies who accept extra benefits as college players "are not currently under consideration."
Multiple sources have said the idea of a suspension, in addition to financial penalties, had been discussed, mostly at the suggestion of college coaches, both during in-person and teleconference meetings of a panel assembled to address improper agent activity.
"The NFLPA is opposed to any penalty being imposed upon a player in the NFL for conduct relating to the receipt of benefits in violation of NCAA rules while the player was in college," the NFLPA said in a statement. "However, we will continue to discuss with the NCAA and others issues relating to the conduct of agents certified by the NFLPA as they interact with NCAA players."
The executive director of the American Football Coaches Association, Grant Teaff, said Wednesday that post-NCAA penalties for college players who receive extra benefits at the end of their college careers is "on the table."
Teaff said while the organization isn't "pushing" ideas, those that have been discussed include financial penalties and suspension.

Entire article: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5733652

I love the NCAA -- go after young, impressionable kids and punish them, but let coaches walk away from train wrecks, bowl commitments, NCAA sanctions, shady recruiting and academic schemes...
 
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