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Impending Assistant Coach Vacancies

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by bukIpower, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. scarletngray

    scarletngray Gold Pants

    Day has given very high praise for the pass blocking in '18. I would be surprised if Stud leaves.
    Honor&Glory likes this.
  2. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    Well Given Day said what he looks for in coaches 1. Recruiting 2. Culture Fit/Accountability 3. Scheme you teach I'd say probably all his coaches can recruit.
    buckeyes_rock likes this.
  3. nomatta

    nomatta Junior

    Dude has one recruit to his name.

    Day might have some reason to think that Barnes will be an asset on the recruiting trail, but at this point he is almost totally unproven in that area.
    buckeyes_rock likes this.
  4. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    I genuinely don’t understand why people put so much stock in websites giving credit to certain coaches for recruiting players.

    Again, everyone should go look at Kevin Wilson’s 247 page and note that he is given credit for Zach Harrison’s recruitment which is ridiculous.

    Shortly after this people should forget any value they had previously put into these trackers.

    Barnes might be able to recruit; he might not be. But let’s not use the total number of players the internet gives him credit for to judge that.

    To add on, I think people are substantially over valuing Studrawa as a recruiter based on who he is given credit for by the internet. People who track these things closely don’t seem overly impressed with him, and that is substantially more meaningful evaluation tool IMO.
  5. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    I think the coach’s recruiting abilities currently stack up something like this:

    Larry Johnson
    Brian Hartline
    Al Washington
    Jeff Hafley

    Tony Alford
    Greg Mattison

    Mostly unknown but probably okay:
    Kevin Wilson

    Mostly unknown but probably not great:
    Greg Studrawa

    Mostly unknown (but fingers crossed):
    Ryan Day
    Matt Barnes
    Mike Yurcich
  6. buckeyes_rock

    buckeyes_rock Great day to be a Buckeye

    So from what I understand, we had a bunch of money to spend on assistants but didn't. Interesting...
  7. cdiddy70

    cdiddy70 Junior

    We saved a boat load of cash when Raymond turned us down.

    I find it curious that neither Stud or Wilson has been “confirmed” to be coming back.

    Personally, I’m down for taking the windfall we saved with the Barnes hire and throwing it at a knock out OL coach.
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  8. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Ryan Day is unknown? The guy that just landed Fields?
  9. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    How is Washington elite, but Alford isn't? Alford has pulled a number of too FL kids to say the least
    brodybuck21 and buckeyeintn like this.
  10. TooTallMenardo

    TooTallMenardo The Rushmen™ '17 Bowl Pick Em Champ

    The same reason Kevin Wilson is listed under “mostly unknown but probably okay”. The same Kevin Wilson responsible for offenses featuring two Heisman winners (Jason White and Sam Bradford) and several All Americans including Adrian Peterson, Jason White, Mark Clayton, Sam Bradford, Jermaine Gresham, and a solid number of OL.
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  11. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    We recognize that coaching and running an offense is different than recruiting, yes?
  12. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    Yes. His previous most notable result without Haskins and Quincy Avery doing him a solid was national #331 QB Mathew Baldwin and national #261 QB Dwan Mathis after missing on quite a few more highly rated prospects/targets in the cycle.
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
  13. TooTallMenardo

    TooTallMenardo The Rushmen™ '17 Bowl Pick Em Champ

    I’m sure he had nothing to do with recruiting any of them. Carry on.
  14. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    Recent buzz over what an amazing job Washington did with Harrison and the ravages of time fading my memory of any examples of Alford doing the same.

    Although Steele Chambers and Marcus Crowley might be great, they are both lower than quite a few other RBs Ohio State was “in” on this cycle.

    Was it regionally based and other guys on staff missed those RB prospects? Maybe.

    Did we genuinely value those two over the more highly rated prospects? Maybe.

    But, that is the recent history that is guiding my subjective opinion on this.
  15. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    Yeah, he’s probably an okay recruiter. Do you have any examples of kids raving about their connection with him and him being the sole reason they’re going to Ohio State like Larry Johnson consistently has?

    Do analysts singularly give him credit for keeping a recruitment alive for a school against the overwhelming hometown favorite like Al Washington pulled off with Harrison?

    Do Oklahoma and Indiana fans still rave about what a great recruiter he was almost a decade later like Pitt and Rutgers fans do with Jeff Hafley?

    Is he on a run of insanely good commits (with even more in the pipeline) at his primary position like Hartline?

    He’s probably pretty good, but compared to those prominent and recent examples, whatever he does is relatively unknown.

    I’d be very happy if all of them are super duper elite- I’m just going by what I read about on the interwebs.
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019

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