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Indians Tidbits (2010 season)

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Major league baseball's best, worst farm systems - MLB - SI.com


The five best systems

5. Indians: Cleveland has traded many of the key players from its 2007 playoff team. That's cold comfort to Tribe fans, but many of the prospects acquired in those trades now give the Indians one of the game's top farm systems. The organization's top arms, right-hander Jason Knapp and left-hander Nick Hagadone, both were trade pickups, with Knapp coming from the Phillies in the Cliff Lee deal and Hagadone from Boston as the key piece in the Victor Martinez trade. Catcher Carlos Santana, acquired from the Dodgers for Casey Blake, is a switch-hitting offensive force who was the MVP of the Eastern League in 2009, and 2008 first-round pick Lonnie Chisenhall reached Double-A in his first full pro season.​
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tsteele316;1611526; said:
because the guy they got from the cliff lee deal can give you what carroll did at a fraction of the cost. paying guys like carroll, delucci and jason michaels is exactly what this team should not be doing right now.
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Paying anyone is against the rules for the Indians...
 
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Former Cleveland Indians manager Mike Hargrove disappointed he wasn't considered for current Tribe job | Starting Blocks - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com


I guess Grover wanted to come back but Shapiro was not interested.

Former Cleveland Indians manager Mike Hargrove disappointed he wasn't considered for current Tribe job
By Starting Blocks
December 08, 2009, 11:04AM

Mike Hargrove managed the Cleveland Indians during one of the most successful eras in team history. The Canton Repository reports that Hargrove told an audience at Canton's Hall of Fame Luncheon Club on Monday that he expressed an interest in the Indians managerial position late last season, but general manager Mark Shapiro wasn't too interested. Full story ?
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Now trading Woods is a novel idea:wink2:

Cleveland Indians may use winter meetings to explore trade options for Kerry Wood | Cleveland Indians - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com

Cleveland Indians may use winter meetings to explore trade options for Kerry Wood
By Paul Hoynes, The Plain Dealer
December 08, 2009, 3:02AM

INDIANAPOLIS -- At the winter meetings last year, the Indians signed Kerry Wood to a two-year, $20.5 million contract. This year at the winter meetings, they'd like nothing better than to trade the hard-throwing Wood or draw the blueprints for such a deal at a later date.

Pat Rooney, the agent who negotiated Wood's deal with the Tribe in Las Vegas last year, will meet with the Indians this week to see what they have in mind.
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tsteele316;1611526; said:
because the guy they got from the cliff lee deal can give you what carroll did at a fraction of the cost. paying guys like carroll, delucci and jason michaels is exactly what this team should not be doing right now.
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Not so fast my friend:) On Cleveland.com yesterday there was a report that the Indians and Carroll were still somewhat mutually interested in each other but Carroll has other teams interested in his services so we will have to wait and see.

I don't know who you were referring to when you mentioned the guy we got in the Cliff Lee trade. I don't think that was Valbuena. If that is who you are referring to then I am in total agreement with you.
 
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more bad news for Adam Miller, gotta feel bad for the guy, nothing seems to go right for him

Pair of surgeries brings bad news for one | indians.com: News
INDIANAPOLIS -- The dreaded "s" word -- surgery -- has altered many a top prospect's career.

For Carlos Santana, the surgery he had performed Tuesday to remove a broken hamate bone in his right hand shouldn't derail him from becoming the Indians' catcher of the future.

But for right-hander Adam Miller, who had yet another setback and yet another surgery on his right middle finger, the surgery he had performed last month could spell the end of a once-promising career.

The Indians announced both surgeries Wednesday. Bad news is the only news coming out of one of the Winter Meetings' quietest clubs.

Santana, 23, had been pulled out of his stint in the Dominican Winter League because of the flu bug. When he recovered enough to begin taking batting practice, the soreness in his hand got the best of him. The Indians sent him to hand specialist Dr. Tom Graham in Baltimore, and the surgical procedure was performed to remove the fractured bone.

As a result of the surgery, Santana probably won't be able to pick up a bat for eight to 10 weeks. He might be a little behind at the beginning of Spring Training, head athletic trainer Lonnie Soloff said, but the Indians are expecting him to be ready by the start of the season.

"We'll update his progress at intervals during Spring Training," Soloff said.

Santana, the Eastern League MVP in 2009 at Double-A Akron, will begin the 2010 season with Triple-A Columbus and could be with the Tribe by year's end.

The 25-year-old Miller, on the other hand, doesn't appear as if he'll ever make it to the Majors. And that's a sad situation for a guy whose blazing fastball was supposed to make him a big league star.

The fickle finger of fate kept getting in Miller's way.

In 2008, Miller was limited to six starts at Triple-A Buffalo because a bum pulley system had created a bad blister which resulted in a porous hole in the middle finger. Miller had surgery to address the issue in May and was shut down for the remainder of the season.

Miller entered '09 in a new relief role, as a result of his limited innings tally the year before. The Indians hoped he could ascend to the Majors in a bullpen role, but he had a setback with the finger during Spring Training, when he lost the ability to bend the tip.

The Indians tried everything they could think of to keep Miller on the mound. They altered his release point in a series of bullpen sessions in Goodyear, Ariz., and Miller was making major strides. But just as he was ready to face live hitters, the soreness in the finger returned, and surgery became inevitable.

Graham performed two surgical procedures on Miller's finger in '09. The first repaired the pulley system, and the second repaired the flexor tendon. In between, Miller had a silicone rod sticking out of his finger. It was in there to prevent scar tissue from forming.

Last month, Miller was in Goodyear, playing catch in hopes of a full recovery, against sizable odds. But the soreness returned, and a fourth surgical procedure was deemed necessary to once again stabilize the flexor tendon reconstruction. It was performed by Graham on Nov. 18.'

The Indians have no timetable for Miller, who is undergoing hand therapy near his home in Texas, to return to baseball activities, and that alone speaks volumes. Soloff said public perception that this might spell the end of Miller's career is "not off-base."

General manager Mark Shapiro said the Indians aren't making an immediate decision on Miller's status. He remains on the club's 40-man roster.

"Obviously, we're in unchartered waters with him in general," Shapiro said. "Not many people have experience with the injury. Until he begins throwing again, I don't think we know where we are."
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NFBuck;1617678; said:
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give us back our soft-tossing lefty!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is what my brew crew is doing with him apparently...

Brewers select lefty

By Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel
Dec. 10, 2009 9:06 a.m.

Indianapolis - So much for my prediction earlier this morning that the Brewers wouldn't take a player in the Rule 5 draft.
In an effort to find an inexpensive option as a second left-hander in the bullpen, the Brewers selected Chuck Lofgren out of the Cleveland system. Lofgren, 23, pitched last season at Class AA Akron and Class AAA Columbus.
Lofgren has been a starting pitcher. He made eight starts at Akron, going 3-1 with a 1.48 ERA in eight starts. At Columbus, he was 6-10 with a 5.31 ERA in 17 starts. Overall, he was 9-11 with a 4.15 ERA in 141 innings, allowing 118 hits, 48 walks and 93 strikeouts. Opponents batted .223.
Lofgren's star has waned in recent years because of command issues. But he has been successful getting out lefties, to the Brewers are going to see if he can emerge as a bullpen specialist to complement Mitch Stetter, who was overworked last season.
"We like his age, we like his body (6-3, 225)," said Brewers special assistant Dick Groch. "The whole process is addition (to a club). You approach it on need."
The Brewers paid $50,000 to take a look at Lofgren. Rule 5 picks must stay on the team's big-league roster the entire next season or be offered back to his organization. If a team returns the player, they get $25,000 back.
So, basically, the Brewers are committing $25,000 to take a look at a pitcher they hope can at least be a lefty specialist in their bullpen at a low salary.
The Brewers did not lose any players in either the major league or minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft.
 
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NFBuck;1617706; said:
I'm thinking 93-96.
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well, to be fair, this guy's referring to the starting rotation, which consists of a series of #3 and #4 starters, with maybe a #2 mixed in. so, in order to sign someone of value to the starting rotation, cleveland would have to pay a lot on money for a front of the rotation guy. so, his tweet is hardly groundbreaking information.
 
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