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Is the NIT obsolete?

Discussion in 'Buckeye Basketball' started by Jake, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Jake

    Jake Arrogant Alumnus

    On one hand, there's the historical aspect. Ohio State won the NIT when I was in school. Considering we were 14-14 that season, getting an NIT bid was great. Got to see Lou Carnesecca in St. John arena, among others. But 30+ years later, the world has changed. The NBA has gotten bigger, the money has gotten bigger, March Madness has gotten bigger, and the NIT has gotten smaller.

    Could this be the start of a new trend?

    Andy Enfield, salty over USC's NCAA snub, won't commit to playing top players in NIT

    "Enfield’s consideration of letting players with NBA futures sit out truly meaningless college basketball games is intriguing, though. While the comparison to football players on teams in lower-tier bowl games is an easy one, the risk of injury to body and draft stock for basketball players obviously pales in comparison to their gridiron counterparts. But again. These are meaningless games. And nobody’s paying these players to take a risk, no matter how minimal."
  2. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member

    Yes, yes, and yes. There was a time waaayyy back when that the NIT was actually more prestigious than the NCAAs. But as the bracketology has turned, the NIT has died a scaphic death. Let us count the ways: one, the NCAAs are the biggest thing in sports because of the mighty brackets. Two, they get all the leftovers (when I was little I called the NIT “not in Tournament”). Three, there is now a preseason NIT too. Four, it is actually even more watered down by the CIT, the CBI, and Jesus, isn’t there one more? Aren’t there like 5 tournaments worth of has-beens and were nots now? Five, no one cares that you win it, and even lesscare about making the “final four in MSG” because 6) coaches get fired despite “good” NIT results.

    The NIT is the basketball equivalent of the Vivid Adult Entertainment Dicklicker Bowl between the 5th place C-USA team and the 7th team from the MAC. No one cares, even fans from your own school don’t care.

    If they want to matter, end the postseason tournament for good and then pour all of your resources into making it the most valuable pre-conference event. Bring huge schools and bitchin mid-majors to give everyone a chance to get those quadrant whatever games. Make it something everyone wants to win. Because no one cares now. No one.
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  3. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble but People Need Banners!

    I think until more teams start to decline invitations to the NIT is is going to hang around for some more years. I guess I understand why Nebraska is playing in it but if I were Tim Miles instead of bitching about it he should have just declined the invitation. The pedsters should have declined also but Fuck'em!
  4. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    I like the NIT, but I really love college basketball. There are a lot of competitive teams that fall just a bit short of the NCAA Tourney. It would be a shame if the NIT were to go away and those teams just had to stop playing in spite of deserving more of a postseason opportunity.
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  5. Jake

    Jake Arrogant Alumnus

    According to Enfield at USC, the decision to accept the NIT bid was not his to make. I'm guessing it wasn't Miles decision, either. Athletic departments aren't likely to turn down bids any more than they turn down bowl games - money.

    But I can definitely see players skipping the NIT for the same reason they skip minor bowl games. Million dollar dreams aren't worth the risk for potential stars. For guys whose careers are going to end after college, that's different.
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  6. Jake

    Jake Arrogant Alumnus

  7. OhioState001

    OhioState001 Go Buckeyes!

    What does that say about the players though? I understand if you are an NBA prospect and just want to focus on the draft but wouldn't the other guys want to compete and try to win something?

    That's kind of lame
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  8. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    The March check bounced?
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  9. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Seems foolish to me to pass up the extra practices and game reps out of pride (or spite).

    Are CFB bowl games irrelevant now with the CFP? Sure. Still worth accepting whatever bid you get and taking the opportunity to get better.
    buckeyebri likes this.
  10. LitlBuck

    LitlBuck I Don't Want Any Trouble but People Need Banners!

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  11. TampaBuckeyes

    TampaBuckeyes Senior

  12. TampaBuckeyes

    TampaBuckeyes Senior

    I think Detroit, Denver, Charlotte and San Antonio are really good and deserving teams that are so close to making the playoffs. Let’s have a second nba playoff so they can keep playing.
  13. TDunk

    TDunk The Dunk Abides

    Some local/Toledo reactions:
  14. Jake

    Jake Arrogant Alumnus

    For the most part I agree. I don't know why a coach would be against it.

    I think the obsolescence notion comes into play when talking about guys on their way out the door for the draft. To them, NIT just means Not In Tournament. The history doesn't mean anything, and it's not worth the risk.
  15. DZ83CK

    DZ83CK Not Banned

    Yes, I believe the vast majority of the teams in the NIT deserve some type of postseason reward beyond the conference tournament.
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