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Jim Boeheim (HC Syracuse Orange)

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stowfan;2307287; said:
I have a new measure of respect for the guy:

http://tracking.si.com/2013/02/14/jim-boeheim-syracuse-espn-andy-katz-exchange/?sct=obnetwork
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I don't. It was a dickish move by a guy who has a good deal of explaining to do, but the key point is that NO reporter worthy of the name is "loyal" to a school, a program, a team. His loyalty should be to telling the public what he believes to be the truth, to do his research and to ask tough questions.

And yeah, I like Herbie.
 
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Blah blah blah here comes BN27 to defend Boeheim.

He didn't mean loyal to Syracuse or him. He meant Katz took information that wasn't to be disseminated out to the public, and disseminated it out to the public. Wether it was anything to do with the Bernie Fine shit, or the James Southerland shit....I don't know.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;2307310; said:
Blah blah blah here comes BN27 to defend Boeheim.

He didn't mean loyal to Syracuse or him. He meant Katz took information that wasn't to be disseminated out to the public, and disseminated it out to the public. Wether it was anything to do with the Bernie Fine [Mark May], or the James Southerland [Mark May]....I don't know.
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So, by your definition, he wasn't being disloyal at all? :lol: That's a really flawed way of looking at the situation. Boeheim was obviously talking about Katz being disloyal to himself or his program as any other statement would be completely out of context. I get that you're a 'Cuse fan, but you're allowed to admit that Boeheim was being a prick in this situation. Calling out a reporter, a respected one at that, is not the way to curry favor with the media.
 
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What does Katz have to be loyal about? He went to Wisconsin.

Boeheim is a twit, I would say ... but he managed to snag this hot babe, so I still can't help but respect the guy.

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I would hit this with the Angry Hammer of Thor.

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This was just another example of Boeheim sticking his foot in his mouth. He was irritated about being questioned by Katz like 4 months ago, so he calls him out as an idiot and being disloyal? C'mon now. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Boeheim will try his best to keep information about the Bernie Fine case out of the public eye. I still think the fact that Syracuse is a private university has shielded Boeheim from the media scrutiny that could've taken him down. If he was the coach at OSU, I don't think the media would be as forgiving as they've been to him, and he'd have been fired by now for some of the things he's said and the things that have happened under his watch. Assistant coach molesting ball boys, playing players who were ineligible per the university drug policy, sticking foot in mouth repeatedly, many players with embarrassing off-court conduct including assaulting women. Jim Boeheim is one of the winningest coaches in college basketball history, but I think due to a myriad of issues he doesn't deserve to be in the same discussion with others such as Coach K and Coach Knight when it comes to the greatest coaches in college basketball history.
 
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shiznit7 said:
So, by your definition, he wasn't being disloyal at all? :lol: That's a really flawed way of looking at the situation. Boeheim was obviously talking about Katz being disloyal to himself or his program as any other statement would be completely out of context. I get that you're a 'Cuse fan, but you're allowed to admit that Boeheim was being a prick in this situation. Calling out a reporter, a respected one at that, is not the way to curry favor with the media.
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Or maybe he used the word disloyal when he meant something else entirely......like dishonest or untrustworthy. A reporter who is given "off the record" info and proceeds to report on it on ESPN is exactly that.

Yes he's a dick, but that's besides the point. He's calling out a media member (who gives a shit about currying favor, btw?) for being a shitty journalist, while protecting his team at the same time.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;2307337; said:
Or maybe he used the word disloyal when he meant something else entirely......like dishonest or untrustworthy. A reporter who is given "off the record" info and proceeds to report on it on ESPN is exactly that.

Yes he's a dick, but that's besides the point. He's calling out a media member (who gives a [Mark May] about currying favor, btw?) for being a [Mark May]ty journalist, while protecting his team at the same time.
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If a coach wants a reporter to keep information off the record, it's probably in his best interest to, you know, be on his good side (ie curry favor) or not say it at all. I'm not disagreeing that Katz overstepped his bounds, but clearly so did Boeheim - they're not mutually exclusive events. And I think it's pretty obvious that Boeheim does enough to "protect" his team from those pesky things like the law and academic requirements. I guess he's going for the trifecta and trying to protect them from the media too.
 
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Katz was on Mike and Mike the day after the incident happened (week ago or so) and he said there was no promise of any off the record comments. He said he could be criticized for asking more follow up questions to a topic that Boeheim didn't want to talk about. But not about a promise of an off the record comment.
 
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shiznit7;2307319; said:
So, by your definition, he wasn't being disloyal at all? :lol: That's a really flawed way of looking at the situation. Boeheim was obviously talking about Katz being disloyal to himself or his program as any other statement would be completely out of context. I get that you're a 'Cuse fan, but you're allowed to admit that Boeheim was being a prick in this situation. Calling out a reporter, a respected one at that, is not the way to curry favor with the media.
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Who cares about currying favor with the media? Boeheim's running a basketball team. F ESPN.
 
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Boeheim is such a pleasant guy.

Boeheim, 68, also lectured a reporter because he asked if injured player DaJuan Coleman would have helped slow down a Marquette scoring outburst by Davante Gardner.


"You should try coaching because that's what you think you are," Boeheim said. "Maybe you should try that."


"Any more coaches here?" he went on to ask the room. "Want to ask another coaching question? I'd be happy to take it. I've only been doing this 37 years, I'm sure you've got more ideas of who we should play or we shouldn't play or who should lead? What do I know?"


"Any more ideas for me guys? I think you ought to know by now if you start asking me those questions, I just laugh at you. That's all I'll do."
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JFC, what a dick :shake:
 
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