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Jim Boeheim (HC Syracuse Orange)

As an aside, I'm terrified of killing someone with my car these days. Here in Denver, between legal weed, personal mobile devices, a plethora of street people who are often in one state of impairment or another, and a society that is generally primed for angry impulsive behavior, I see crazy crap that could get people killed damn near every day. In the last two weeks or so alone, I've encountered three cars going the wrong way down one way streets, came semi-close to rear-ending a bicyclist who was riding on a main arterial at night with absolutely nothing reflective on him (a random barely seen glint of something thankfully gave me minimal notice that someone might be there), and watched a guy this morning who thought a red light was taking too long to change just go right through it. That's not even counting the regular events of bicyclists (often wearing headphones) blowing through stop signs or traffic lights when crossing major arterials without even looking and pedestrians popping out from between parked cars to cross streets away from intersections (often in dark clothing at night). My commute is only three miles and is mainly through residential neighborhoods, and it feels like a game of Frogger more often than not.

Well it’s a good thing none of the terrible things you are envisioning has happened yet as you are driving within the legal limits of the law. Because then you’d have committed a traffic offense and likely have to prove you are capable of driving all over again because some person high as shit or blowing through a stop sign on a bicycle got hit by your car.
 
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You're on the highway, at night. You see a car in your way. You avoid it. It's simply what you do. The tragic fact that a person was there and unseen until it was too late, doesn't make the decision different. This is awful for all parties involved, but it doesn't seem like a crime. I feel for all involved.
Well yes, but have you considered that the driver isn't a nice guy?
 
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Well yes, but have you considered that the driver isn't a nice guy?
I know that there are some loons out there that like 'Cuse basketball. Crazy mf'ers if you ask me. I've never been a fan of the team and am ambivalent about Boeheim. He probably isn't a nice guy. He's also old. So....I guess that calls for jail time right?

I saw a motorcycle accident in my rear view mirror last Friday. Guy actually started to get up and walk as a truck from behind was bearing down on him. Long story short, the guy was not hit, but if he had been it wouldn't have been the fault of the truck driver, it simply would have been a horrible tragedy for all involved. As it is, the poor guy on the motorcycle has a long recovery ahead of him.
 
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I know that there are some loons out there that like 'Cuse basketball. Crazy mf'ers if you ask me. I've never been a fan of the team and am ambivalent about Boeheim. He probably isn't a nice guy. He's also old. So....I guess that calls for jail time right?

I saw a motorcycle accident in my rear view mirror last Friday. Guy actually started to get up and walk as a truck from behind was bearing down on him. Long story short, the guy was not hit, but if he had been it wouldn't have been the fault of the truck driver, it simply would have been a horrible tragedy for all involved. As it is, the poor guy on the motorcycle has a long recovery ahead of him.
You have a different definition of fault than I do. Boeheim is probably going to get sued for big bucks by Jorge's family, and I see no scenario in which Jim isn't at least partially at fault.
 
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Ok...and?

No one here is denying that it happened or that it isn't a tragedy for all involved. Your continued participation in this thread is both hilarious and disturbing almost to the point of either a vendetta or psychosis...
He did it on purpose!

Also, Nike WANTED Zion to fall.
You have a different definition of fault than I do. Boeheim is probably going to get sued for big bucks by Jorge's family, and I see no scenario in which Jim isn't at least partially at fault.
The fact that a well-known person might get sued for money says nothing about whether or not he committed a crime or whether said persons should win a lawsuit seeking cash. Based upon what we have all read, there is virtually no way that he will be found at fault. Virtually none. Near 0%. Nada.
 
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He did it on purpose!

Also, Nike WANTED Zion to fall.

The fact that a well-known person might get sued for money says nothing about whether or not he committed a crime or whether said persons should win a lawsuit seeking cash. Based upon what we have all read, there is virtually no way that he will be found at fault. Virtually none. Near 0%. Nada.
I never said he would be criminally liable other than I feel like there should be a traffic citation. But in the world of civil liability, I think Jim is toast and deserves to pay Jorge's family a lot of money.
 
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I never said he would be criminally liable other than I feel like there should be a traffic citation. But in the world of civil liability, I think Jim is toast and deserves to pay Jorge's family a lot of money.
Where's the negligent behavior on the part of Boeheim?

Remember that bit earlier today about it being illegal to wander around highways.... that's gonna play a roll.
 
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Where's the negligent behavior on the part of Boeheim?

Remember that bit earlier today about it being illegal to wander around highways.... that's gonna play a roll.
He clearly failed to stop his car where he should have. Even if he was driving the speed limit, that may well have been too fast in the conditions. He should have been able to completely stop without having to swerve to avoid a stopped car in front of him. He did not maintain control of his car appropriately. He is at fault, it may very well not be 100%, but he deserves to pay for killing Jorge.
 
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He clearly failed to stop his car where he should have. Even if he was driving the speed limit, that may well have been too fast in the conditions. He should have been able to completely stop without having to swerve to avoid a stopped car in front of him. He did not maintain control of his car appropriately. He is at fault, it may very well not be 100%, but he deserves to pay for killing Jorge.
Wrong. A person was wondering on the highway. It is very likely that this will be a no-fault accident.

Meanwhile, your continued foolish postings on the subject are driving the rest of us mad. You should probably pay for our madness. Seriously, if you think that this accident means someone should pay a cash settlement then I firmly believe you should pay each member of this site who has read this thread $10,000 for the anguish of having to read your stupidity. “we are all dumber for having read your comments” today.
 
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He clearly failed to stop his car where he should have. Even if he was driving the speed limit, that may well have been too fast in the conditions. He should have been able to completely stop without having to swerve to avoid a stopped car in front of him. He did not maintain control of his car appropriately. He is at fault, it may very well not be 100%, but he deserves to pay for killing Jorge.

I'm no Boeheim fan but this accident occurred at night on an interstate highway. Do we know if they had flashers on? Because if the car was just sitting there in the dark there's no way you're stopping by the time you see it. You're also not going to be able to stop by the time you see a guy walking, either. You seem to be presuming a lot here.

Whether he's at fault or not he's going to get sued. It'll be settled out of court and the guy will still be dead.
 
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I'm no Boeheim fan but this accident occurred at night on an interstate highway. Do we know if they had flashers on? Because if the car was just sitting there in the dark there's no way you're stopping by the time you see it. You seem to be presuming a lot here.

Whether he's at fault or not he's going to get sued. It'll be settled out of court and the guy will still be dead.
If you can't stop your car to avoid hitting another car in front of you and instead swerve and hit and kill a person, I don't care what other circumstances exist, in the world of civil liability you are at fault for that death to some extent. The mitigating circumstances just reduce the percentage of responsibility.
 
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