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Jose Canseco's New Book

Discussion in 'Professional Baseball' started by sears3820, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    Sounds like a lot of people are getting exposed. I guess you have to consider the source but still some pretty interesting stuff.

    Here's Jose giving Big Mac a private lesson on just where to shoot it....

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    Screw you all, I'm singin' like a canary!!!!


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    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/278200p-238361c.html

    BY MICHAEL O'KEEFFE
    DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER



    You've never seen Jose Canseco like this: huddled in a bathroom stall at the Oakland Coliseum, jabbing a hypodermic needle into Mark McGwire's bare behind.



    Or McGwire and a young Jason Giambi heading into the men's room to inject each other with the anabolic steroids that would turn them from lanky lads into musclebound behemoths.



    Bad boy Canseco alleges those and other mind-bending scenes in a soon-to-be released tome that is already shaking the world of baseball.



    In "Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits and How Baseball Got Big," Canseco claims he personally injected some of the biggest names in baseball - including All-Stars Rafael Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez and Ivan Rodriguez, among others - with performance-enhancing drugs.



    But if the book is a confessional, Canseco isn't seeking redemption. "Juiced" is a love letter to the clear liquids that turned him from struggling skinny prospect to one of the biggest names in the game.



    The implausibly buff slugger admitted to doping several years ago, but in the book he claims he was almost solely responsible for spreading steroids throughout the game in the 1990s. The book, which is still being edited, is scheduled for release Feb. 21.



    Canseco, who played for seven big league teams in a 17-year career - including a brief stint with the Yankees in 2000 - expresses no regrets in the book. In fact, he predicts steroids and human growth hormone will eventually be decriminalized and help people lead longer, healthier and sexier lives.



    Giambi's agent, Arn Tellem, questioned Canseco's credibility:



    "This book, which attacks baseball and many of its players, was written to make a quick buck by a guy desperate for attention, who has appeared on more police blotters then line-up cards in recent years, has no runs, no hits and is all errors," Tellem told the Daily News.



    Baseball insiders have known for months that Canseco was working on the tell-all book, which is published by Regan Books.



    Among his many bombshells, Canseco claims:





    <LI>McGwire introduced Giambi to performance-enhancing drugs and the three of them used to shoot steroids together. Canseco says players on the A's talked openly about injecting in the bathroom stalls, and the clubhouse was an abuser's paradise.





    <LI>During the great home run race of 1998, a reporter's accidental discovery of androstenedione in McGwire's locker, may not have been an accident. Canseco says he believes McGwire put the bottle of the steroid "pre-cursor" in his locker so it would be found, thus creating a smokescreen for his extensive use of illegal steroids. Andro, recently criminalized, was legal at the time.





    <LI>Some Major League Baseball owners welcomed or condoned steroid use because they believed a power surge would bring back fans after the disastrous 1994-95 work stoppage.





    <LI>The Players Association condoned steroid use because a home run barrage would mean bigger salaries for members and union leaders.





    <LI>President Bush, who was the Rangers' general managing partner in the early '90s, must have known that some of his players were using steroids but chose not to address the issue. White House spokesman Ken Lisaius declined to comment on Canseco's book, but noted that Bush had urged players, coaches and owners to work together to rid sports of steroids during the 2004 State of the Union address.





    <LI>Both baseball and the media routinely vilified black and Latin players who misbehaved while they shielded white stars - especially McGwire - who engaged in similar conduct.





    <LI>Canseco had sex with hundreds of women - most players, he says, cheat on their wives - but clears the air about his most famous relationship: Canseco says he never had sex with Madonna, although he did spend a night making out with the Material Girl in her Manhattan apartment.





    <LI>Steroids played no role in the injuries that plagued Canseco's career and that he would not have even become a big-league player if it weren't for performance-enhancing drugs.




    Reaction was swift from the accused. McGwire, Canseco's biggest target who has long denied steroid use, said in a statement: "I have always told the truth and I am saddened that I continue to face this line of questioning. With regard to this book, I am reserving comment until I have the chance to review its contents myself."



    Added Tellem: "It only confirms what the great baseball writer Peter Gammons said when he called Jose Canseco one of the three greatest wastes of baseball talent between 1980 and 2000."



    White House spokesman Lisaius noted that President Bush is an outpsoken critic of steroid use. "The president's position on steroids has been clear for some time," Lisaius said.



    Canseco told Sports Illustrated in 2002 that he suspected 80% of players were using steroids, a figure widely dismissed within the game. In 2003, an anonymous survey, introduced as the first step in baseball's first anti-steroids program, found that 5% to 7% of player tests were positive.



    In "Juiced," however, Canseco sticks to the 80% estimate, a figure that critics will be sure to attack.



    Canseco's bombshell comes just as Major League Baseball, hoping to move past the BALCO steroid-trafficking investigation, prepares to put a new, tougher anti-steroid policy in place.



    MLB and the Players Association initiated discussions on a stricter program last March, after U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) threatened congressional intervention at a Senate hearing on steroids. But the discussions didn't gain momentum until the San Francisco Chronicle reported in December that Giambi and Barry Bonds had admitted steroid use to the grand jury investigating the BALCO scandal. Now, instead of moving forward, MLB officials figure to spend much of spring training responding to the charges in Canseco's book.



    MLB and union reps declined to comment on Canseco's charges, but one baseball official privately dismissed the book, which contains many other revelations about players' lives and Canseco's own, as "nonsense."



    No owner, the baseball official said on condition of anonymity, ever encouraged a player to take illegal drugs to improve performance. Commissioner Bud Selig, the source added, pushed the union to agree to drug testing for several years before the first anti-steroid policy was approved in 2002.



    Canseco claims he began counseling Rodriguez, Palmeiro and Gonzalez on steroid use in 1992, after he was traded by the A's to Texas. He says he eventually injected his three teammates with the illegal substances.



    Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, who did not represent the player in 1992, said he has not seen the book and declined to comment. Gonzalez's agent, Alan Nero, also declined to comment until he's read the book. Palmeiro's agent, Pat Rooney, did not return calls from the Daily News.



    The baseball source said he believes Canseco's allegations won't withstand scrutiny. "History," the source said, "will determine that this is nonsense."



    [size=+1]Yanks say they'll read book for Giambi dirt[/size]



    Yankee officials say they will be reading Jose Canseco's tell-all book closely to find out what they can about disgraced slugger Jason Giambi.



    In the book, which team officials have not seen, Canseco says Giambi badly abused performance-enhancing drugs, and one high-ranking Yankee source said the team will be adding revelations from the book to its Giambi file. Yankee GM Brian Cashman has said the team expects a healthy Giambi to report to spring training, but the source said the team reserves the right to legally challenge his contract.



    "All options are still open," the source said Friday.

    Yankee brass discussed voiding their contract with Giambi, who is owed $82 million, when it was reported last year that he admitted to using steroids before a federal grand jury in the BALCO case. Team lawyers decided it would be nearly impossible to break the contract, but if any new information helps their case they may move ahead with a challenge.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2005
  2. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    this is the perfect place for a picture of the ball off the head HR. of course i cant find it anywhere. :smash:

    there, thats good enough :p
     
  3. HabaneroBuck

    HabaneroBuck Non-Nike Design

    I believe his allegations, for the most part. I always wondered how a high-average contact hitter like Palmeiro became a career 500-HR hitter. I'm pretty much buying his story on Juan "Gone", Pudge, McGwire, and Giambi.

    On the radio this morning, they said there is at least one more big name that is going to get outted in the book which has not been leaked yet. I'm guessing it has something to do with either Sosa or Griffey, Jr. It is going to be someone along those lines...
     
  4. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    I can't imagine pissing away any of my hard earned money on a book by Jose Canseco. :sleep1:
     
  5. OSUsushichic

    OSUsushichic Fired up! Ready to go! Staff Member

    I would bet that Sammy's stats have slipped that past three or four seasons partly because he's coming off 'roids.
     
  6. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    And they took the cork out of his bat :)


    How about Brady Anderson for an obvious case of mid-career steroid use? That dude led the league in home runs with 50 in 1996 (and went nuts in the home run derby that year) after hitting 21, 12, 13, and 16 in his only four prior full-seasons. Then the next year in 1997, he went back down to 18, 18, 24, 19, and 8 in his last five full seasons.
     
  7. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    How about Bret Boone in his first year with the Mariners after coming over from the Padres?

    He went from a skinny 170 lb 2B with average power to 200 lbs of slugging 2B in one off-season.
     
  8. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    Do you really think he used steroids? As a fan of the Reds, I don't think I'm the only one who has noticed that the Boones, both Brett and Aaron, swing for the fences in every single at bat. The anomoly of Brett's first season with the Mariners, to me, was that he actually made contact with the ball with those crazy cuts.
     
  9. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    Maybe but adding 20+ lbs in an off-season as short as baseball's is fishy.
     
  10. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    That's a very compelling point. I wonder if there are pictures out there showing the shape of Brett's cranium changing over time like there are for others, such as...

    Bonds, who was always one of the best conditioned athletes in MLB, but then all of a sudden put on a ton of mass, which added crazy dimensions to his offensive power, but seriously negated his ability in the field.

    Has anyone else seen the pictures of athletes' heads/skulls as they change with steroid use?
     
  11. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear.... Staff Member

    ESPN's Page 2 did a photo yearbook of Bonds. It was amazing to see when he changed and how much he changed. I linked it in another thread.

    I'll see if I can find it....

    Here's the link to the thread Johnny:

    http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7860&page=2&pp=15


    http://espn.go.com/mlb/gallery/19379070.html

    Before 1998, the most home runs he had in a single season was 46 (1993). After 1998, the fewest home runs he had in a single season was 45 (2003 & 2004)


    1998
    .262, 34 HRs, 83 RBI

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    1999
    .306, 49 HRs, 106 RBI

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    Last edited: Feb 8, 2005
  12. osubartender23

    osubartender23 Purple Nurple King

    Not only because of steroids, but because he was corking his bat the majority of the time too. Steroids + corked bat = outrageous home run numbers. Since Sammy has had to stop doing both his numbers have dropped significantly, and since his body isnt able to heal itself as well without the steroids his injury numbers and games spent on the disabled list have gone up.

    Isn't Sosa the player who had to go on the disabled list because he sneezed too hard?
     
  13. Sloopy45

    Sloopy45 Pimp Minister Sinister

    osubartender23: "but because he was corking his bat the majority of the time too."

    I highly doubt that Sosa was using a corked bat during his home run hey day. He was using one for a short stretch, it shattered, and he was busted.

    Its all about the juice. Sammy sucked before he started using, and his production dropped now that he stopped using. Bottom line.

    "Isn't Sosa the player who had to go on the disabled list because he sneezed too hard?"

    Yup.
     
  14. osubartender23

    osubartender23 Purple Nurple King

    The other corked bat theory I have is because Sosa stopped "juicing" that he had to start using a corked bat because he realized that he had lost alot more power then he thought he would.
     
  15. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    If only one thing Conseco says in his book is true, then all that makes him is a snitch. He ratted out a brother. It has amazed me how many people who have knowingly taken the risk of doing something wrong, only to tell on everyone they have ever known once they get caught. And have no problem with it. And some of you guys, tossing out names (Boone, Griffey Jr., etc.) on a public web site, with no evidence that these guys have done anything wrong. I just don't get it anymore. I know that only a few years ago, a man wouldn't even consider doing such a thing. Maybe this is where the "new age, politically correct" society has brought us. I think it s#@ks.
     

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