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McManamon on the Browns
Winslow contract is no laughing matter to Browns
Internet cartoon has Miami tight end in stitches
By Patrick McManamon
There's a cartoon going around the Internet that features the Poston Brothers, Kevin and Carl, negotiating the contract for Kellen Winslow Jr.
It shows the Postons sitting across a desk from Browns coach Butch Davis, who asks ``How are you doing?''
The Postons then berate Davis -- ``How do you think he's doing?'' says Carl Poston. ``He's the Chosen One. How do you think he's doing?'' -- and ends with the Browns providing the Postons and Winslow fruit and drinks and a massage from women wearing bikinis.
There's more.
Each meeting includes the Postons screaming at Davis for some perceived slight -- ``I don't see a fruit basket. What if he wanted a banana? What if he wanted an apple? An orange? A mango? You're trying to starve our client'' -- and ends with the Postons saying: ``I'm outta here!'' before they slide away.
At one of the last sessions, Davis starts by saying he's hopeful the parties can get a deal by training camp.
The Postons burst into laughter and walk out.
Davis and the Browns might not appreciate it, but most people -- including the principals -- think the cartoon is hysterical (it can be seen at www.footballguys.com/04bang_negotiation.htm.
``It's hilarious, man,'' Winslow said. ``I was laughing my butt off.''
Yes, the cartoon is a parody, but it also reflects the prevailing thinking regarding the Browns' upcoming negotiations with Winslow about his contract. With the Postons doing the dealing, and with new Browns president John Collins doing one of his first player deals, it's not expected to be easy.
Part of the concern is that the team's recent changes have seen Carmen Policy to resign and salary-cap expert Lal Heneghan to be fired. The Browns now have Collins and Trip McCracken, who has never done a big deal, talking contract with two of the most notorious agents in the business.
Those two got Dennis Northcutt signed, and the Browns are hopeful Winslow will be in camp on time.
``There's plenty of people here who can do the (negotiating) job,'' Davis said.
Winslow chose the Postons after a long process in which he and his father, Hall of Fame tight end Kellen Winslow Sr., allowed five agents two hours each (no more) to explain themselves to the Winslows and two family friends -- a law school professor and an investment expert. Why choose the Postons?
``Just real strong people,'' Winslow said. ``Real strong black people. They don't let people get to them. You always hear bad things about their name -- Poston did this, Poston did that -- but they're real strong and they stick to what they know.''
A year ago, the Postons did get Detroit receiver Charles Rogers into camp on time, so a holdout is not guaranteed. But Carl Poston seemed to be laying the groundwork for his demands when he said on draft day that Winslow could have been the first overall pick.
Can you say ``first-overall-pick money''?
``I'd love that money, but I'm the sixth pick and it's all about your market value,'' Winslow said. ``I was on a lot of people's boards No.1, but I'm the sixth pick. So fifth, sixth-type money... I'm going to let my agents handle that.''
The concern around the league is that in their eagerness to get a deal and prove they can get a deal, the Browns might overpay.
If they do, they'll have 31 other teams angry at them.
But if they can pull it off and get a fair contract for Winslow and get him to camp on time, 31 other teams will be impressed.
McManamon on the Browns
Winslow contract is no laughing matter to Browns
Internet cartoon has Miami tight end in stitches
By Patrick McManamon
There's a cartoon going around the Internet that features the Poston Brothers, Kevin and Carl, negotiating the contract for Kellen Winslow Jr.
It shows the Postons sitting across a desk from Browns coach Butch Davis, who asks ``How are you doing?''
The Postons then berate Davis -- ``How do you think he's doing?'' says Carl Poston. ``He's the Chosen One. How do you think he's doing?'' -- and ends with the Browns providing the Postons and Winslow fruit and drinks and a massage from women wearing bikinis.
There's more.
Each meeting includes the Postons screaming at Davis for some perceived slight -- ``I don't see a fruit basket. What if he wanted a banana? What if he wanted an apple? An orange? A mango? You're trying to starve our client'' -- and ends with the Postons saying: ``I'm outta here!'' before they slide away.
At one of the last sessions, Davis starts by saying he's hopeful the parties can get a deal by training camp.
The Postons burst into laughter and walk out.
Davis and the Browns might not appreciate it, but most people -- including the principals -- think the cartoon is hysterical (it can be seen at www.footballguys.com/04bang_negotiation.htm.
``It's hilarious, man,'' Winslow said. ``I was laughing my butt off.''
Yes, the cartoon is a parody, but it also reflects the prevailing thinking regarding the Browns' upcoming negotiations with Winslow about his contract. With the Postons doing the dealing, and with new Browns president John Collins doing one of his first player deals, it's not expected to be easy.
Part of the concern is that the team's recent changes have seen Carmen Policy to resign and salary-cap expert Lal Heneghan to be fired. The Browns now have Collins and Trip McCracken, who has never done a big deal, talking contract with two of the most notorious agents in the business.
Those two got Dennis Northcutt signed, and the Browns are hopeful Winslow will be in camp on time.
``There's plenty of people here who can do the (negotiating) job,'' Davis said.
Winslow chose the Postons after a long process in which he and his father, Hall of Fame tight end Kellen Winslow Sr., allowed five agents two hours each (no more) to explain themselves to the Winslows and two family friends -- a law school professor and an investment expert. Why choose the Postons?
``Just real strong people,'' Winslow said. ``Real strong black people. They don't let people get to them. You always hear bad things about their name -- Poston did this, Poston did that -- but they're real strong and they stick to what they know.''
A year ago, the Postons did get Detroit receiver Charles Rogers into camp on time, so a holdout is not guaranteed. But Carl Poston seemed to be laying the groundwork for his demands when he said on draft day that Winslow could have been the first overall pick.
Can you say ``first-overall-pick money''?
``I'd love that money, but I'm the sixth pick and it's all about your market value,'' Winslow said. ``I was on a lot of people's boards No.1, but I'm the sixth pick. So fifth, sixth-type money... I'm going to let my agents handle that.''
The concern around the league is that in their eagerness to get a deal and prove they can get a deal, the Browns might overpay.
If they do, they'll have 31 other teams angry at them.
But if they can pull it off and get a fair contract for Winslow and get him to camp on time, 31 other teams will be impressed.
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