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Kitchen cabinets, why you so complicated?

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Deety

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Hi folks. Been smacking my forehead against the sharp corner of a kitchen cabinet for awhile now, and it occurred to me that people here know some stuffs and might be able to help. We're coming along nicely on the flood rebuild, and it's time to replace the kitchen cabinets, but I'm finding the layout planning oddly difficult.

Is it weird to offset the range in this kitchen layout and not have cabinets line up with the ones below, or would it look okay? I am going with stock cabinets, both for initial cost and because I have volunteer help for installation. The layout I had initially didn't work for me because the two blind cabinets in the corners by the range were largely unusable and there were no cabinet openings large enough to hold things like stock pots. The layouts the big box stores recommend are similar, but with more dead space where sizes I had before are not available.This one puts two lazy susans in the corners and gets rid of most of the empty space, but isn't symmetrical.

Also, I am short on storage areas in general, and was considering putting cabinets on the garage wall (bottom of the picture). For the counter, we'd either use base cabinets cut down to 18" deep, or use 12" deep wall cabinets as base cabinets with an 18" counter overhang for my aerogardens or instant pot. I have 20" to work with before I hit a window.

However, the other option is to take the old wall cabinets (which were salvageable but didn't match any other available cabinets) and turn them into an island to be used as a table. I wouldn't mind doing both the extra wall of cabinets and the island, but this looks a little crowded.

Anybody see better options? Would this work? I'm still going to be lacking places to store larger items like stock pots, if anyone spots a way to get those in.

Thanks, peeps. Not sure what the mental block is with this project, but it's been giving me headaches trying to figure it out.

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Deety said:
Hi folks. Been smacking my forehead against the sharp corner of a kitchen cabinet for awhile now, and it occurred to me that people here know some stuffs and might be able to help. We're coming along nicely on the flood rebuild, and it's time to replace the kitchen cabinets, but I'm finding the layout planning oddly difficult.

Is it weird to offset the range in this kitchen layout and not have cabinets line up with the ones below, or would it look okay? I am going with stock cabinets, both for initial cost and because I have volunteer help for installation. The layout I had initially didn't work for me because the two blind cabinets in the corners by the range were largely unusable and there were no cabinet openings large enough to hold things like stock pots. The layouts the big box stores recommend are similar, but with more dead space where sizes I had before are not available.This one puts two lazy susans in the corners and gets rid of most of the empty space, but isn't symmetrical.

Also, I am short on storage areas in general, and was considering putting cabinets on the garage wall (bottom of the picture). For the counter, we'd either use base cabinets cut down to 18" deep, or use 12" deep wall cabinets as base cabinets with an 18" counter overhang for my aerogardens or instant pot. I have 20" to work with before I hit a window.

However, the other option is to take the old wall cabinets (which were salvageable but didn't match any other available cabinets) and turn them into an island to be used as a table. I wouldn't mind doing both the extra wall of cabinets and the island, but this looks a little crowded.

Anybody see better options? Would this work? I'm still going to be lacking places to store larger items like stock pots, if anyone spots a way to get those in.

Thanks, peeps. Not sure what the mental block is with this project, but it's been giving me headaches trying to figure it out.

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Take out the fridge, sink, and dishwasher and replace with more cabinets. Problem solved.
 
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Have you considered building a small pantry in the corner to the left of the stove with the door at a 45 degree angle? It’s not balanced currently anyway (not that balance is that big of a deal.) You can fit a ton of stuff in a pantry and customize shelf height to your needs. Besides everyone hates lazy susans. One is plenty.
 
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Deety said:
Also, I am short on storage areas in general, and was considering putting cabinets on the garage wall (bottom of the picture). For the counter, we'd either use base cabinets cut down to 18" deep, or use 12" deep wall cabinets as base cabinets with an 18" counter overhang for my aerogardens or instant pot. I have 20" to work with before I hit a window.
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Why have a counter there at all? In my experience, it will only collect clutter. I'd suggest going with full-height pantry-type cabinets along that wall for foodstuffs and stock pot, etc.

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ShowMeBuck said:
Have you considered building a small pantry in the corner to the left of the stove with the door at a 45 degree angle? It’s not balanced currently anyway (not that balance is that big of a deal.) You can fit a ton of stuff in a pantry and customize shelf height to your needs. Besides everyone hates lazy susans. One is plenty.
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Oh, I like this. I was thinking I wanted the counter space (though @FCollinsBuckeye's picture has its appeal!). However, you can't reach anything in that corner anyway. So something like this, with an angled door for a bit more storage? Not sure I could find one, but I could build that. Maybe even mostly level.

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muffler dragon said:
Would I be correct in presuming that you're going with a paint instead of a stain due to the potential differences of cabinet construction?
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I'm going with Home Depot's basic stock cabinets in white, ready to install. However, I will be painting the old wall cabinets and repurposing them - the corners above the washer and dryer with shelves between, and the rest will become a portable island - if not for the kitchen, then as a crafting table in the office. Most of my storage furniture wound up in the trash mountain in front of the house, so we're getting creative. And looking to keep as much off the floor as possible... just in case.
 
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I build new spec houses as a side job and one thing I have learned is that lower cabinet's suck ass when it's just the traditional 1 drawer over doors . Most homeowners these days want all drawers on lower cabinets because it's such a pain to bend down and grab stuff out of the lower cabinet bases. It's really not that much more expensive to do 3 drawers instead of 1 drawer on top with cabinet beneath. Where I live in MO it's probably about $100 more for a 24" base and totally worth it. Just my 2 cents.

One last thing on your sketch - I think you would be happier in the long run to have the table move farther south instead of that run of cabinets along that wall. I don't see the reason to separate those cabinets from the rest of the kitchen. You will just end up walking around the table all the time to grab stuff. Much better IMO to just extend the run of cabinets longer in that direction and keep them all together.

Oh....and one more tip. Consider varying the height of a few of the upper cabinets for a more expensive look assuming your ceiling height allows for it. Staggered upper cabinet heights is a more expensive look. You only have to stagger a few and you will pay a bit more for them since they are taller but it looks waaaaay more expensive and custom.

Cheers.
 
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Have you considered IKEA cabinets? I installed them in a house that I redid. They had quite a few options and have a 3D layout program online that you can use, see colors, etc. The only issue I had was with the install of the lower cabinets. If you use the same install method that they use on the upper cabinets for the lower cabinets, you're jiggy.
 
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