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Muck;2352817; said:
If forgot to to mention that Lisa Niemi was (and remained) Swayze's wife. They started dating as teenagers and stayed together until his death.
I saw that after I watched it & looked it up. Amazing that they stayed together all of those years & throughout the fame he achieved. Always had a big respect for Patrick Swayze, but even more now that I know he was apart of a marriage that lasted until his death in the business he was in. That's something you might not ever see again in today's day & age.
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Hadn't seen it in years, forgot what a great [censored]ing movie it is.
My first time seeing it & it was an instant classic in my book.
 
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Another high quality film, Muck. Again, thanks for the recommendation. Nothing like seeing another movie in which Brion James dies from taking a sharp object through the gut. As soon as I recognized his face, I just knew he would suffer the same fate as poor Tark in Steel Dawn, albeit in different circumstances.

Definitely not a film to let the kids see, with all of the violence, nudity & language, but hey, my parents probably would've let me watch it if I were alive at the time. Found it quite amusing how Hawkwood was quickly dying from the Plague & then kicked the the [Mark May] out if and fully recovered in no time. Still have the scene where they take Agnes' virginity running through my head for some reason. That was some brutal stuff.
 
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Yeah I forgot to mention it has some pretty brutal scenes. Of course it works really well considering the subject matter that is being portrayed (mercenary companies in the 1500s).

Looking at your poster shot, I have no memory of Jennifer Jason Leigh being in it.

Smudger;2352568; said:
For instance, I'm listening to the soundtrack to Bloodsport right now because it's incredibly amusing. Also one of my favorite movies too.

Not on the same level as Bloodsport but you'd probably appreciate Gymkata (almost as bad as Ator), Circle of Iron (David Carradine)& No Retreat, No Surrender (Bruce Lee's ghost teaches a HS kid Kung Fu so he get revenge against John Claude Van Damme)

Since you hadn't seen Excalibur I might as well list some of the movies that I'd consider 'better known' than those I put up earlier.

The Beastmaster - Straight up sword & sorcery flick with Marc Singer's character on a quest to find those that massacred his village (sound familiar) but also discovers the truth about himself, oh and he has a black tiger, an eagle & a couple of ferret sidekicks. Tanya Roberts looks good naked & John Amos is a bad mofo. I probably watched this movie more times than any other. It was on HBO a LOT.
Clash of the Titans - While it took some pretty significant liberities with Greek myth, it's miles closer than the recent remake. The last film **Ray Harryhousen worked on, his medusa is brilliant.
The Dark Crystal - Jim Henson produced dark epic. The usual quest - farm boy with a destiny saves the world
Dragonslayer - I still love this movie today. It's a slower & more cynical than most fantasy flicks but Vermithrax Pejorative is the most impressive dragon to make it onto screen.
The Golden Child - Contemporary setting (80's). Eddie Murphy must protect a Tibetan child with magical powers from evil forces that want to corrupt him.
Highlander - I can't imagine you haven't seen this but just in case, it's about immortals who have dueled throughout history until only one remains to claim 'the prize'. Sean Connery plays an Egyptian while a frenchman (Christopher Lambert) plays a Scotsman. Clancy Brown portrays one of the best all time villains.
Labyrinth - Another Jim Henson film, a bit lighter in tone than The Dark Crystal (but still darker than the usual muppet fare). Jennifer Connelly (do you need another reason to see it?) wishes goblins would come & take her little brother away...so they do. David Bowie just happens to be their king.
Ladyhawke - Matthew Broderick is a thief who must help two lovers (Rutger Hauer & Michelle Pfeiffer) break the curse that keeps them apart.
Legend - Yes it stars Tom Cruise but it also has Tim Curry as the devil (well 'Darkness')! Even if you've seen it, get the Director's Cut. It has a completely different musical score, an extra 20 minutes of film, and a much darker feel than the US release.
Return to Oz - Definitely a kid's movie but a very nicely done adaptation of Frank Baum's work. Dorothy returns to Oz only to find that it's sufferedn an apocalypse.
Time Bandits - Terry Gilliam flick about a group of **dwarves who stole a map of the universe from God. I <3 this movie.

If you liked The Adventures of Baron Munchausen then you absolutely must see Erik the Viking.

Animated:
Fire and Ice - Ralph Bakshi sword & sorcery story about a barbarian trying to stop an evil queen bent on covering the world in glaciers. The high point is that the artwork is by Frank Franzetta.
The Last Unicorn - Film by Rankin/Bass (animated version of the Hobbit). Based on the truly wonderful ***book of the same name by Peter S. Beagle, it is about a unicorn who finds she is the last of her kind so she begins a question to find what happened to the others.
Wizards - Another Ralph Baksi piece. A post apocalypic story about two wizards fighting for supremecy over the world. One is good & represents magic, the other is evil & reprsents technology.



* If you haven't seen them yet be sure to grab Harryhausen's earlier movies - The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad & Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. There is also The Valley of Gwangi, whereupon a group of cowboys discover a hidden valley complete with dinosaurs. That's right Cowboys vs motherfargin Dinosaurs!
** The six dwarves were actually representations of the Monty Python members.
*** Which also happens to contain one of my favorite quotes:
“Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?" He gripped the magician's shoulder hard, to keep from falling.
Schmedrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for.”
 
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Muck;2352958; said:
Looking at your poster shot, I have no memory of Jennifer Jason Leigh being in it.
Yeah, she's the main actress in the film. She's the daughter of the aristocrat Steven is arranged to be married with. She gets captured & forcibly raped by Martin in one of the most hardcore rape scenes I've ever seen. She then proceeds to bang Martin several more times before eventually going back to Steven after his fathers men take the castle & slay the remaining mercenaries who hadn't yet fallen victim to the plague. Minus of course Martin, who invariably ended up surviving. One of the mercenaries ended up committing Seppuku, which I thought was pretty cool too.
Muck;2352958; said:
Not on the same level as Bloodsport but you'd probably appreciate Gymkata (almost as bad as Ator), Circle of Iron (David Carradine)& No Retreat, No Surrender (Bruce Lee's ghost teaches a HS kid Kung Fu so he get revenge against John Claude Van Damme)

Since you hadn't seen Excalibur I might as well list some of the movies that I'd consider 'better known' than those I put up earlier.

The Beastmaster - Straight up sword & sorcery flick with Marc Singer's character on a quest to find those that massacred his village (sound familiar) but also discovers the truth about himself, oh and he has a black tiger, an eagle & a couple of ferret sidekicks. Tanya Roberts looks good naked & John Amos is a bad mofo. I probably watched this movie more times than any other. It was on HBO a LOT.
Clash of the Titans - While it took some pretty significant liberities with Greek myth, it's miles closer than the recent remake. The last film **Ray Harryhousen worked on, his medusa is brilliant.
The Dark Crystal - Jim Henson produced dark epic. The usual quest - farm boy with a destiny saves the world
Dragonslayer - I still love this movie today. It's a slower & more cynical than most fantasy flicks but Vermithrax Pejorative is the most impressive dragon to make it onto screen.
The Golden Child - Contemporary setting (80's). Eddie Murphy must protect a Tibetan child with magical powers from evil forces that want to corrupt him.
Highlander - I can't imagine you haven't seen this but just in case, it's about immortals who have dueled throughout history until only one remains to claim 'the prize'. Sean Connery plays an Egyptian while a frenchman (Christopher Lambert) plays a Scotsman. Clancy Brown portrays one of the best all time villains.
Labyrinth - Another Jim Henson film, a bit lighter in tone than The Dark Crystal (but still darker than the usual muppet fare). Jennifer Connelly (do you need another reason to see it?) wishes goblins would come & take her little brother away...so they do. David Bowie just happens to be their king.
Ladyhawke - Matthew Broderick is a thief who must help two lovers (Rutger Hauer & Michelle Pfeiffer) break the curse that keeps them apart.
Legend - Yes it stars Tom Cruise but it also has Tim Curry as the devil (well 'Darkness')! Even if you've seen it, get the Director's Cut. It has a completely different musical score, an extra 20 minutes of film, and a much darker feel than the US release.
Return to Oz - Definitely a kid's movie but a very nicely done adaptation of Frank Baum's work. Dorothy returns to Oz only to find that it's sufferedn an apocalypse.
Time Bandits - Terry Gilliam flick about a group of **dwarves who stole a map of the universe from God. I <3 this movie.

If you liked The Adventures of Baron Munchausen then you absolutely must see Erik the Viking.

Animated:
Fire and Ice - Ralph Bakshi sword & sorcery story about a barbarian trying to stop an evil queen bent on covering the world in glaciers. The high point is that the artwork is by Frank Franzetta.
The Last Unicorn - Film by Rankin/Bass (animated version of the Hobbit). Based on the truly wonderful ***book of the same name by Peter S. Beagle, it is about a unicorn who finds she is the last of her kind so she begins a question to find what happened to the others.
Wizards - Another Ralph Baksi piece. A post apocalypic story about two wizards fighting for supremecy over the world. One is good & represents magic, the other is evil & reprsents technology.



* If you haven't seen them yet be sure to grab Harryhausen's earlier movies - The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad & Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. There is also The Valley of Gwangi, whereupon a group of cowboys discover a hidden valley complete with dinosaurs. That's right Cowboys vs motherfargin Dinosaurs!
** The six dwarves were actually representations of the Monty Python members.
*** Which also happens to contain one of my favorite quotes:
Beastmaster is one of my all-time favorites. Couldn't tell you how many times I watched that growing up, but it was quite a lot. Actually watched Clash of Titans in HS in this blow-off class called Myths & Legends. Completely butchered the mythology, but still a very entertaining film nonetheless. Watched it on TV not to long ago. I'm well versed in Highlander as expected. My Facebook profile picture before I deactivated it two years ago was The Kurgan. Seen Labyrinth quite a few times as well & an absolute epic. Never get's old.

Never seen any of the others, but they are all surely added to my immediate watch list. You couldn't have convinced me any more to see these. They sound effing fantastic. Looks like I know what I'll be doing with my spare time the next month or so before Football season starts. You'll definitely be hearing more from me in this thread over the next few weeks.
 
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After looking through the search on my On-Demand, five of those were available. Gymkata, Ladyhawke, Legend, Erik the Viking & Wizards. I'm going to watch these ones first as I search to download, rent or just buy the others. I still have a working VHS player, so even if I have to get it on tape, I'll be more than glad to see them the ol' fashioned way.

Do you know a trustworthy site I can download some of these from by chance ? I usually only download TV shows off the internet, not movies.
 
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Smudger;2353178; said:
Yeah, she's the main actress in the film.

Crazy. I had no idea that was her (to be fair it's been awhile since I've watched it).

Beastmaster is one of my all-time favorites. Couldn't tell you how many times I watched that growing up, but it was quite a lot.
I mentioned that I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen Beastmaster becaue it was on HBO so often. I do remember spending a week home sick with some sort of virus & being completely miserable. I swear Beastmaster was on every other movie the entire time. My sickness, coupled with heavy meds & the constant playing of the movie caused me to have some really weird dream/hallucinations about the movie. Enough so that for a few years afterwards even a brief glimpse of it would invoke nausea.

I had a similar experience with Tequila when I was in the 'Corps.

Smudger;2353180; said:
Do you know a trustworthy site I can download some of these from by chance ? I usually only download TV shows off the internet, not movies.

Honestly if I can't get a movie through Netflix I usually just find a torrent and download. The library has also become a pretty good way to pick up stuff.

All that being said solarmovie.so has a pretty good rep.

If you want I can throw up a list of forgotten 80's sci-fi stuff too.
 
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Crump's brother;2353191; said:
So is it safe to say that you're a Mystery Science Theater 3000 fan, Muck?

MST3K was an awesome show but the above movies were just ones I grew up watching, so it's a little bit different. While much of the first list was definitely of the 'so bad they're good' category, the second is mostly actual decent flicks....mostly.
 
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The cover explains everything. Effing amazing. Nothing like turning a gymnast into an agent. The gymnastics montage at the beginning set the tone for what as about to occur & it didn't disappoint. If I was perhaps skeptical at that time, I definitely wasn't after they explained how they wanted him to participate in "the Game" and was at stake. Easily the most hilarious plot I've ever encountered in my entire life. It was after seeing multiple "terrorists" wielding MP 40's (Yes, effing MP 40's in 1985) that I fully knew I was in for some monumental stuff. If ever there was a definitive film for the phrase "so bad it's good" this one has to be right up there in that running. I don't even feel guilty in saying I liked this one supremely.
 
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Muck;2353183; said:
I mentioned that I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen Beastmaster becaue it was on HBO so often. I do remember spending a week home sick with some sort of virus & being completely miserable. I swear Beastmaster was on every other movie the entire time. My sickness, coupled with heavy meds & the constant playing of the movie caused me to have some really weird dream/hallucinations about the movie. Enough so that for a few years afterwards even a brief glimpse of it would invoke nausea.
That's some rough stuff. I don't remember how old I was at the time, but I definitely remember watching this quite often. I haven't seen it since then, so I'm without a doubt watching it again, but I recall enjoying it a lot at the time.
Muck;2353183; said:
I had a similar experience with Tequila when I was in the 'Corps.
Had enough of that stuff on Spring Break of my Senior year of HS in Puerto Vallarta. Never drank it before & haven't drank it since. Sounds very familiar to my experience with Wild Turkey 101 after watching The Punisher.
Muck;2353183; said:
Honestly if I can't get a movie through Netflix I usually just find a torrent and download. The library has also become a pretty good way to pick up stuff.

All that being said solarmovie.so has a pretty good rep.
That's pretty much my plan at this point. I know the library will have some of these, but the video store I'm sure will have some as well.

I'll look into that site. Since some of these are pretty rare, I'd rather try & find one from a reliable source, than try and take the risk somewhere else. If anything else fails, I'll just try and buy them for as cheap as I can get if the Library & movie store fails.
Muck;2353183; said:
If you want I can throw up a list of forgotten 80's sci-fi stuff too.
Give me everything you've got. These sound incredible & I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far.
 
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Smudger;2353369; said:
The cover explains everything. Effing amazing. Nothing like turning a gymnast into an agent.

I was particular impressed with how they worked various gymnastic apparatus into the film for him to use.

I bet Borat's village has a stone pommel horse in the town square.

It was after seeing multiple "terrorists" wielding MP 40's (Yes, effing MP 40's in 1985) that I fully knew I was in for some monumental stuff.
Interestingly enough that was one of the major plot lines of one of Forsyth's novels revolving around mercenaries in the mid 70's (Dogs of War). They ended up purchasing a number of MP40's from a former SS member who had the forethought to stash a bunch away at the end of WW2, and periodically sold a few here & there on the world market.

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I had an opportunity to fire an StG 44 while in Iraq (the Army types running the range were more than a little surprised I already knew had to field strip it lol). There were a number of MP40s that cropped up as well.

Smudger;2353370; said:
Had enough of that stuff on Spring Break of my Senior year of HS in Puerto Vallarta. Never drank it before & haven't drank it since. Sounds very familiar to my experience with Wild Turkey 101 after watching The Punisher.

The thing is I've always liked Tequila. I just made the mistake of drinking an entire fifth in a ridiculously short period of time at the EAS party for a couple of buddies (wife was out of town so I determined to get shit faced). Around 2 AM I woke up in the hatchback of my car; naked, soaking wet & covered with sand. I managed to extricate myself from the vehicle by climbing over the seats, put on a spare set of clothes while standing in the apartment parking lot then climbed into the passenger seat & went back to sleep. I was still buzzed when I woke up at 7 AM before heading up the apartment to find out exactly what I had done.

Give me everything you've got. These sound incredible & I've really enjoyed what I've seen so far.
I'll knock out a list tomorrow.
 
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Muck;2353377; said:
I was particular impressed with how they worked various gymnastic apparatus into the film for him to use.

I bet Borat's village has a stone pommel horse in the town square.
Precisely why it's so fantastic. They had to utilize his strengths somehow. He probably took out 20 guys easily in that scene & I'd be lying if I wasn't impressed. It's amazing to think how people come up with these types of things & actually put them in motion for all to see.
Muck;2353377; said:
Interestingly enough that was one of the major plot lines of one of Forsyth's novels revolving around mercenaries in the mid 70's (Dogs of War). They ended up purchasing a number of MP40's from a former SS member who had the forethought to stash a bunch away at the end of WW2, and periodically sold a few here & there on the world market.

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I had an opportunity to fire an StG 44 while in Iraq (the Army types running the range were more than a little surprised I already knew had to field strip it lol). There were a number of MP40s that cropped up as well.
Very interesting. Not really something I put much thought into, but could very much believe it. I'm sure they had a lot in abundance especially with the move to the Sturmgewehr. I bet you that was a fun experience. Not often you get to play around with history.

Side note: Deeply offended by the Marine Corps Scout Snipers adoption of the SS logo. I take it none of them have ever even heard of the Einsatzgruppen, but hey, I guess we can honor people who killed everything in sight with no discretion whatsoever. Let's just keep there memory alive more why don't we ? That's one thing that even Marine Corps wise, is in absolute disgraceful taste. Utter garbage.
Muck;2353377; said:
The thing is I've always liked Tequila. I just made the mistake of drinking an entire fifth in a ridiculously short period of time at the EAS party for a couple of buddies (wife was out of town so I determined to get [Mark May] faced). Around 2 AM I woke up in the hatchback of my car; naked, soaking wet & covered with sand. I managed to extricate myself from the vehicle by climbing over the seats, put on a spare set of clothes while standing in the apartment parking lot then climbed into the passenger seat & went back to sleep. I was still buzzed when I woke up at 7 AM before heading up the apartment to find out exactly what I had done.
That is effing epic. Naked, strike one, soaking wet, strike two, covered with sand ? As the shirt Billy Bob gave Thurman Merman in Bad Santa said, [Mark May] happens when you party naked. That's definitely one of the finest examples of that I've ever heard of.
Muck;2353377; said:
I'll knock out a list tomorrow.
Take your time if you want. I've got quite a list already, so don't feel rushed to make one. I've got nothing but time until Football season starts.
 
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