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Bill Davis (LB Coach Arizona Cardinals)

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bukIpower said:
Well true... but the when your players aren't good at playing hands like 2018 is then you have to do something different.

IMO hardly any team will be able to execute the "not look back" approach so don't even bother.
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The problem is not the technique but rather whether they have the positioning, consistency and poise to execute it. It's not a coincidence that the least experienced of the 3 non-okudahs (Wade) executes a lot better, and frankly he's not nearly as athletic as Sheffield (while still being a very good athlete).
 
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jwinslow said:
You want Sheffield and Arnette trying to play the ball? Or is the problem the personnel, not the scheme?
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If they try to play the ball, they give up more passes, agreed. If they play the man, they commit more PI. Like I said, pick your poison. But how do we know they can't play the ball? We've never seen them even try. Plus, it's not like these kids are walk-ons. They were all highly recruited. That's not an athlete thing, it's a coaching thing.

Personally, penalties suck, but i'd rather give up 15 yards than a TD.

The thing is, and maybe I'm just stupid, but why can't they play man AND zone? Why does it have to be one or the other? I seem to remember them mixing coverages up in the past, but maybe I'm mistaken.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
If they try to play the ball, they give up more passes, agreed. If they play the man, they commit more PI. Like I said, pick your poison. But how do we know they can't play the ball? We've never seen them even try. Plus, it's not like these kids are walk-ons. They were all highly recruited. That's not an athlete thing, it's a coaching thing.

Personally, penalties suck, but i'd rather give up 15 yards than a TD.

The thing is, and maybe I'm just stupid, but why can't they play man AND zone? Why does it have to be one or the other? I seem to remember them mixing coverages up in the past, but maybe I'm mistaken.
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We do play zone. We use cover 3 a lot as a change of pace for cover 1, because they look the same pre-snap. We use a lot of cover 2 on passing downs.

Early in the season it was tons of man coverage, but Schiano and co. have reworked the entire defense to where it's not even recognizable.

I suspect the preseason plan was to do everything possible to get Bosa 1-on-1 and get him sacks. We used wider splits and walked up linebackers to isolate blockers, and press man to contest hot throws. It all left us really susceptible to the run if the d-line didn't make a play, especially with a ho-hum secondary. The scheme has mostly been fixed. IMO the problems we still have are all down to technique.
 
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woofermazing said:
I suspect the preseason plan was to do everything possible to get Bosa 1-on-1 and get him sacks. We used wider splits and walked up linebackers to isolate blockers, and press man to contest hot throws. It all left us really susceptible to the run if the d-line didn't make a play, especially with a ho-hum secondary. The scheme has mostly been fixed. IMO the problems we still have are all down to technique.
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I have trouble with "mostly fixed" except in the ttun game.

Mansfield from MD ran at will, it seemed, and that kid from NW..... Moton?...... lit us up for 80yds off tackle, I think.

If you're giving up those kinds of runs, against MD and NW, something is still VERY wrong and UW has a couple of really quick runners. Obviously, I hope the D that crushed ttun shows up..... but I've seen the "other D" much more often this year.
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
I have trouble with "mostly fixed" except in the ttun game.

Mansfield from MD ran at will, it seemed, and that kid from NW..... Moton?...... lit us up for 80yds off tackle, I think.

If you're giving up those kinds of runs, against MD and NW, something is still VERY wrong and UW has a couple of really quick runners. Obviously, I hope the D that crushed ttun shows up..... but I've seen the "other D" much more often this year.
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I agree, nothing was "mostly fixed". We resembled some sort of decent defense when Sparty sucked ass against us like they did everyone else. Then Maryland embarrassed the defense worse than it had been embarrassed all year long.
 
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I'd like to think, though Meyer will be coaching, that Day can assert himself more into the game prep conversation ESPECIALLY with Schiano (and I feel this D's continuing issues belong on him as much as Davis) because it's too late to rework the schemes, but some strong attention to the LOS placement of LBs and better strategies for containment might make a difference against the speed of UW.
 
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BuckBuckTN said:
I have trouble with "mostly fixed" except in the ttun game.

Mansfield from MD ran at will, it seemed, and that kid from NW..... Moton?...... lit us up for 80yds off tackle, I think.

If you're giving up those kinds of runs, against MD and NW, something is still VERY wrong and UW has a couple of really quick runners. Obviously, I hope the D that crushed ttun shows up..... but I've seen the "other D" much more often this year.
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Boundary runs killed us in the Maryland game because of formation problems and some really poor play. Scum came out trying to do the exact same thing and got stonewalled because we had made the needed scheme changes.

NW had the one big run but it wasn't the same problem coming back, they were running to the field. That was just awful tackling. That might get better with bowl practice reps, we'll see.
 
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woofermazing said:
We do play zone. We use cover 3 a lot as a change of pace for cover 1, because they look the same pre-snap. We use a lot of cover 2 on passing downs.

Early in the season it was tons of man coverage, but Schiano and co. have reworked the entire defense to where it's not even recognizable.

I suspect the preseason plan was to do everything possible to get Bosa 1-on-1 and get him sacks. We used wider splits and walked up linebackers to isolate blockers, and press man to contest hot throws. It all left us really susceptible to the run if the d-line didn't make a play, especially with a ho-hum secondary. The scheme has mostly been fixed. IMO the problems we still have are all down to technique.
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Thanks!
 
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