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I've been hearing they're caught up in the Willie Lyles thing, among other things. It's funny, because recently I saw ESPN had him on commenting on the Tressel fiasco and saying something to the order of "ya, you just can't look the other direction in this business." ya....about that.
 
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tigerdroppings said:
It's funny to me that the guys really beating the drum on this are Auburn fans.​
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MaliBuckeye;1955934; said:
Believe it or not, LSU was served a Notice of Infractions that involve two 10.1 violations.

PDF here.

Wonder why we didn't hear about this in the media?

when we self reported this back in '09, it was covered.
but now, this just ain't as juicy of a story as the cars/tattoos and Lyles stories.

The assistant coach was fired, and the kid never stepped on the field for us before transferring out.
We self imposed a 2 scholarship ban, but (to my knowledge) never heard from the NCAA in it.

I'm thinking this is them finally getting around to answering us on whether or not our self imposed penalties is enough, or if they gonna hit us with more.



southcampus;1955937; said:
I've been hearing they're caught up in the Willie Lyles thing, among other things. It's funny, because recently I saw ESPN had him on commenting on the Tressel fiasco and saying something to the order of "ya, you just can't look the other direction in this business." ya....about that.


this is pre-Lyles.

As far as the Lyles situation, the NCAA was on campus last week or so, and we turned over all the info they requested. Reportedly, we got a lot more stuff for $6,000 than Oregon got for $25,000.

No comments from the NCAA on it since they don't discuss this stuff while it's ongoing.

Us having actually received material from Lyles should play in our favor compared to what is being reported out of Eugene right now.

Of course this doesn't mean we're innocent with Lyles, it just means we at least made it look cleaner than they did.

muffler dragon;1955941; said:
Is this one of the two "big uns" we've been hearing about? Or is that just about stories breaking in the media?


doubtful.
this one really isn't a "big" one as far as the level of allegations listed in this pdf.

phone calls and stuff like that are things coaches get caught doing all the time and rarely get hit with anything for them.

giving the kids a ride to the airport and a few other places seems minor, but is illegal.

the apartment thing is not good, but us self reporting, firing the coach and never playing the kid should help us in that situation.
 
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The main player involved is Akiem Hicks, a D-LIneman.

This is from March, 2010, when LSU sent information to the NCAA.

USAToday

BATON ROUGE ? In a 53-page report to the NCAA, LSU has admitted that its football program likely broke NCAA recruiting rules by housing former player Akiem Hicks in a reduced-rent apartment in Baton Rouge for three months last summer, improperly transporting him to LSU and making impermissible telephone calls to Hicks during the recruiting period.
The NCAA will review the report and will decide if it conducts its own investigation of LSU, which could lead to penalties.
LSU last fall began an investigation into the recruitment of Hicks, a defensive tackle out of Sacramento City Community College, by assistant coach D.J. McCarthy. Because LSU officials thought rules were broken, Hicks was never allowed to play a down for the Tigers last season. Had he played, LSU may have been subject to game forfeitures. LSU also did not allow McCarthy to do any recruiting last fall, and after the season, McCarthy was let go.
"As disappointed as I am in the violations that occurred, I have an equal amount of pride in our compliance office's quick actions, in our thorough investigation and in our reactions to the findings," LSU chancellor Michael Martin said in an LSU release on Tuesday. "I believe we have avoided potentially more severe sanctions because we self-detected these violations early and took immediate disciplinary measures."
When releasing McCarthy, who came to LSU from UCLA, LSU had general counsel Ray Lamonica also get McCarthy to sign a "resignation agreement" that guaranteed his cooperation with any possible NCAA investigation in the future or he would not continue to get paid the remainder of his contract, which ended last month.
"We stand ready to assist the NCAA with any further information they may need to complete this process," LSU athletic director Joe Alleva said in the release. "It is a very serious matter any time violations of NCAA rules are discovered, but I take comfort in the fact we have a compliance program in place that discovered these issues early and took swift action to minimize the severity of the situation."
LSU included in its report to the NCAA a detailed plan to improve its internal process for the enrollment and transfer of new student-athletes to LSU as well as enhance its education of the rules and monitoring of student workers. A student worker in the football office apparently paid for a meal for Hicks, which is against NCAA rules.
LSU also plans a "thorough review" of the rules regarding the maintenance of coaches' phone logs involving recruits.
"Because LSU so vigorously enforces its compliance program, it is obviously disappointed that its investigation of this matter uncovered violations of NCAA Bylaws," LSU concluded on the final pages of its report. "The discovery of these violations, however, occurred because the University compliance staff so promptly identified the potential for violations in this situation.
"The University has been as careful and thorough as possible in conducting this investigation and rendering this report. Still, it expects the NCAA may have further questions regarding this matter, and it stands ready to assist the NCAA investigative staff in its review of this report and with any further investigation or action that the staff deems appropriate."
 
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It seems to me that 3 coaches making hundreds of impermissible phone calls could result in a significant penalty.

Between August 1, 2008 and April 1, 2010, there were a total of 3,669 phone calls in violation of NCAA rules. That indicates a real pattern of ignoring the rules, and a 'failure to monitor' the phone calls, in my opinion.

One coach made 478 impermissible phone calls.

Another coach made 517 impermissible phone calls.

The third coach made 2,674 impermissible phone calls.

EDIT - these weren't all made by coaches, the names were redacted

One of the coaches was using a second phone that the compliance department didn't know about. Even if McCarthy (who's no longer at LSU) is the third coach, there are still 995 phone calls made by the other two guys,

And I don't think McCarthy is the third coach - his name is too long to fit into the redacted area of that paragraph. So that could mean that 2 coaches still on the team made over 3,000 calls.
 
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BB73;1955957; said:
It seems to me that 3 coaches making hundreds of impermissible phone calls could result in a significant penalty.

Between August 1, 2008 and April 1, 2010, there were a total of 3,669 phone calls in violation of NCAA rules. That indicates a real pattern of ignoring the rules, and a 'failure to monitor' the phone calls, in my opinion.

One coach made 478 impermissible phone calls.

Another coach made 517 impermissible phone calls.

The third coach made 2,674 impermissible phone calls.

One of the coaches was using a second phone that the compliance department didn't know about. Even if that's the third coach, and he's the one that's no longer with the team, there are still 995 phone calls made by the other two guys,

Christ! Are these coaches teenage girls? I haven't made that many phone calls in my life.
 
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I think the big point here is that this did not launch investigative reporting teams to camp out and find dirt...3600 calls

LSU COACH: Hello Jamarcus?

Jamarcus:yes

LSU COACH: Just wanted to hear your voice

Jamarcus: Im fuggin eating right now just like I was two hours ago when you called me for the 28th time....I'm coming to LSU damn
 
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