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Madison Square Garden Brawl

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The 15 games hurts 'Melo enough, but the real damage is to his reputation long-term. He wasn't seen as "squeaky clean" image wise (the DVD and all), but he was still a relative babe in the league. Now he sucker punches somebody in an already ugly brawl and then runs away like a pussy. That is an image that will haunt him until he's retired....and it's well deserved.
 
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NFBuck;690985; said:
The 15 games hurts 'Melo enough, but the real damage is to his reputation long-term. He wasn't seen as "squeaky clean" image wise (the DVD and all), but he was still a relative babe in the league. Now he sucker punches somebody in an already ugly brawl and then runs away like a pussy. That is an image that will haunt him until he's retired....and it's well deserved.
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Would you say then that this latest jewel could have been foreseen for Melo?
and one other thought I just had in regards to the recent fights. Is this a result of drafting kids right out of high school? I definitely think so.
 
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Best Buckeye;690989; said:
Would you say then that this latest jewel could have been foreseen for Melo?
and one other thought I just had in regards to the recent fights. Is this a result of drafting kids right out of high school? I definitely think so.
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Don't think I necessarily saw it coming, but it doesn't suprise me. 'Melo had one year of college by the way.:wink2:
 
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NFBuck;691028; said:
Don't think I necessarily saw it coming, but it doesn't suprise me. 'Melo had one year of college by the way.:wink2:
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I never saw it coming either, but i'm not a NBA fan.
That's why i split off the part about the recent fights. Of course if you integrate quite a few 18 and 19 year olds into the NBA, you would have to expect some immature behavior wouldn't you?
 
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And when this happens in baseball? Oh, it's just "part of the game." So, I guess in basketball it is pervasive enough to be a problem for the NBA, but not pervasive enough to be excusable as "part of the game."

But since that reasoning is nonsense...
 
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osubuckeyealum said:
do you mean 'Melo???? he played one year at Syracuse....
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methomps;691069; said:
And when this happens in baseball? Oh, it's just "part of the game." So, I guess in basketball it is pervasive enough to be a problem for the NBA, but not pervasive enough to be excusable as "part of the game."

But since that reasoning is nonsense...
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Like I said earlier, I think it's seen as a bigger problem for basketball because fans don't get crushed by players pushing and shoving and tackling each other into the stands in baseball, football, or hockey brawls.

This doesn't address the image problem the NBA or the players have because of the brawls compared to other sports, but I think it is why these incidents are much bigger deals when they happen on an NBA court.
 
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Buckeye86;691089; said:
Like I said earlier, I think it's seen as a bigger problem for basketball because fans don't get crushed by players pushing and shoving and tackling each other into the stands in baseball, football, or hockey brawls.
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Exactly. David Stern had to shit in his pants when he saw Smith and Robinson go flying into spectators.
 
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Buckeye86;691089; said:
Like I said earlier, I think it's seen as a bigger problem for basketball because fans don't get crushed by players pushing and shoving and tackling each other into the stands in baseball, football, or hockey brawls.

This doesn't address the image problem the NBA or the players have because of the brawls compared to other sports, but I think it is why these incidents are much bigger deals when they happen on an NBA court.
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If that were true, then the largest suspensions would go to the players who spilled out into the crowd, not to Melo.

I can see "NBA brawls are a bigger threat to fans than MLB brawls. Thus, NBA players should be fined more for brawls than MLB players." I don't see "NBA brawls are a bigger threat to fans than MLB brawls. Thus, NBA players are thugs (but not MLB players)."
 
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methomps said:
I can see "NBA brawls are a bigger threat to fans than MLB brawls. Thus, NBA players should be fined more for brawls than MLB players." I don't see "NBA brawls are a bigger threat to fans than MLB brawls. Thus, NBA players are thugs (but not MLB players)."
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Best Buckeye;690932; said:
Not trying to stereotype but.
You can take the boy out of the hood, but you may not get the hood out of the boy.
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Not trying to single you out Best Buckeye, but you having mentioned as not being a fan of the nba, but make that comment.

The thing is it all comes down to stereotypes. Michael Irvin, Kellen Winslow, TO, Roberto Alomar are just some of your bigger punks out there and might occaisonally get the title of a thug, doesnt reflect on the whole league, while guys like Sheed, Melo, Artest, Spreewell, guys that arent even necessairly your superstars get the NBA a bad rap, b/c of non-fans that make comments like the one above and label them as thugs, b/c that is what they see from the NBA on sportscenter...

Honestly there isnt a guy mentioned above that I like, but there are guys from all 3 major sports and there is not one sport that I would label as a thug league b/c of these few...
 
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Apr. 24, 1983: Boston?s Danny Ainge takes an elbow from Atlanta center Tree Rollins in a first-round playoff game. Ainge tackles Rollins and Rollins bites Ainge?s finger.
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That's astonishing! How in the hell did Danny Ainge ever manage to tackle Tree Rollins?
 
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That's astonishing! How in the hell did Danny Ainge ever manage to tackle Tree Rollins?
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If I remember correctly, he tackled him by his ankles.

Dispatch

Stern?s ruling on brawl sets precedent
$500,000 fines levied; Karl calls Thomas? actions ?despicable?
Tuesday, December 19, 2006
Brian Mahoney
ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK ? The NBA came down hard on the New York Knicks and the Denver Nuggets, and none of the brawlers was spared.

Continued......
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