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Making a Murderer (Netflix)

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by Smudger, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    It's definitely too long at 10 hours and it's always in your head wondering "how is there [number] hours left?" but it remains compelling the entire time from my experience watching.
  2. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    At what point can we get a special dispensation to bring ubet back just for this thread. He loves him some crooked cops and prosecutors.
  3. LovelandBuckeye

    LovelandBuckeye You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM

    This is how it was explained to me.

    First 7 minutes you are glued to the tv.

    Take a nap for 46 minutes.

    Wake up and the last 7 minutes will have you begging for the next episode.

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  4. OHSportsFan

    OHSportsFan Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy

    Finished binge watching it. I only have a basic betch response at this point.

    "I can't even"

    Sickening. Fascinating. Confusing on so many levels.
  5. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    I think the cops framed the right guy.
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  6. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    @Jaxbuck 's picture of Wisconsin about sums it up. Scares the shit out of me that something like this could happen to me or my family just because.
  7. OH10

    OH10 *

    This is probably correct.
  8. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Same boat, my wife and I just finished the second one. It seems like a whole lot of shit is covered in one hour...but they do a good job of sinking their claws at the end each time.

    2 of 10 and I've already seen enough slimy bitchtwinkies to last me a lifetime
  9. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Maybe. But... beyond a reasonable doubt?

    Also - where do you land on Brendan Dassey?
  10. BayBuck

    BayBuck Buckeyes are best

    As I read it, the "framed" part makes the "reasonable doubt" part moot.

    To me, there's a very good chance that Avery is the guy - but it's even more likely they got him with some funny business, and in our justice system that should not fly (as of course you know).
  11. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I can certainly see where the Sheriff told his deputies, "make sure this one sticks" :wink:
  12. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    As far as Brendan is concerned, that's a tough one. Considering that the murder absolutely didn't happen in the bedroom where he was coerced into confessing to I'd say he's innocent.
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  13. OH10

    OH10 *

    I think there is an abundance of reasonable doubt created, in no small part, by the Manitowoc County Sheriff's Office having any involvement with the search of the property. However, I think, considering all of the circumstances, Steve Avery is still the most likely person to have committed the murder. And the police obviously reached that conclusion as well, which gave them motive to plant evidence to ensure a conviction.

    Dassey's confession should never had been allowed as evidence. I don't say that because I necessarily believe it was a coerced confession (though I firmly believe any minor should be accompanied by a parent or legal counsel during an interrogation). I think his statement was wholly inconsistent with the available evidence (i.e. lack of DNA evidence from the victim in either the trailer or the garage). That, coupled with his diminished mental capacity, renders the statement unfairly prejudicial and I'd have kept it out under Evid.R. 403.

    If I had to guess on any role Dassey may have played, I'd guess he may have noticed the bones during the bon fire. So I think he may have unwittingly participated in the destruction of evidence or abuse of a corpse and he was probably generally aware that his uncle killed the girl. I do not believe he participated in a rape and/or murder.
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  14. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    A friend of mine sent me a link to an interesting theory.
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  15. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    It's a shame the police decided to frame a guy rather than performing an actual investigation- which prevents alternative theories from being explored.

    It all comes back to the question of doubt though. It seems like the American criminal justice system would rather send someone who might have done it to prison rather than admit that we will never know for sure.

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