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Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

I guess it's like soccer, where if you don't like people moving around doing nothing you just don't appreciate the beautiful defense being played.

I think it's more along the lines that if you're going to ask viewers to pay $100 to watch a "fight of the century" that took six years to negotiate, somebody needs to hit the canvas. Nobody wants to watch jabs and hugs, they want power punches and KOs. This is a big reason why boxing has always been driven by the marketability of its heavyweight stars. The sport has been in a steep decline since Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis hung it up, and no amount of TMTs and De La Hoyas will change that.
 
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neither is running around for 12 rounds

How often do you watch boxing? Are you a casual fan who watches only the "name" fights?

In terms of game planning, Floyd and Jim Tressel go by the same philosophy. Play amazing defense, do just enough on offense to win, and make sure you don't make mistakes to beat yourself. But, since he's not standing getting his head bashed for 12 rounds, it's boring. I get it. But the basics of boxing are to hit and not get hit. Who's better at it than he is?
 
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I think it's more along the lines that if you're going to ask viewers to pay $100 to watch a "fight of the century" that took six years to negotiate, somebody needs to hit the canvas. Nobody wants to watch jabs and hugs, they want power punches and KOs. This is a big reason why boxing has always been driven by the marketability of its heavyweight stars. The sport has been in a steep decline since Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis hung it up, and no amount of TMTs and De La Hoyas will change that.

This - which is why UFC has eclipsed boxing as the major combat sport in this nation. This fight did nothing to change that either....
 
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This - which is why UFC has eclipsed boxing as the major combat sport in this nation. This fight did nothing to change that either....

I enjoy both. But I laugh when people say UFC is "more exciting" than boxing. Especially when GSP was the face of the sport for so long. He's Floyd in UFC. And a huge reason of why UFC is so popular is because there's events on basic cable. You don't have to get PPV to watch all the fights. The Ultimate Fighter TV show has been great for the UFC brand.
 
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I enjoy both. But I laugh when people say UFC is "more exciting" than boxing. Especially when GSP was the face of the sport for so long. He's Floyd in UFC. And a huge reason of why UFC is so popular is because there's events on basic cable. You don't have to get PPV to watch all the fights. The Ultimate Fighter TV show has been great for the UFC brand.

It also draws in the casual fans far more than boxing does. Fights like last night's fight hurt boxing because it won't grow the sport.

BTW I didn't say UFC was more exciting - UFC has its boring ass fights much like Boxing does. However, the fights are shorter, the KO/TKO rate of what is seen on TV (no matter the medium) is far higher, and the UFC marketing plan is superior is almost every respect.
 
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It also draws in the casual fans far more than boxing does. Fights like last night's fight hurt boxing because it won't grow the sport.

I agree with you on that. But that's because the casual fan's excitement comes from blood and knockouts. Casual fans don't understand the skill. It's like football, the casual fan wants to see a 65-61 final score. But is that really good football?
 
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I agree with you on that. But that's because the casual fan's excitement comes from blood and knockouts. Casual fans don't understand the skill. It's like football, the casual fan wants to see a 65-61 final score. But is that really good football?

I don't think you can compare the two sports really.

Plenty of casual fans like 35-28 scores as well in football, or a 4-3 score in baseball. Casual fans don't like 1-0 soccer games even though a soccer fan will absolutely love it.

It comes down to the visuals of each of the different sports. The visuals of last nights fight were boring even to people like me who somewhat follow boxing. I'm super glad I didn't pay one dime to see the fight. I was disappointed in even putting forth the effort in streaming it.
 
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In terms of game planning, Floyd and Jim Tressel go by the same philosophy. Play amazing defense, do just enough on offense to win, and make sure you don't make mistakes to beat yourself. But, since he's not standing getting his head bashed for 12 rounds, it's boring. I get it. But the basics of boxing are to hit and not get hit. Who's better at it than he is?
Even Tressel ran it up once in a while (just ask Northwestern). I think everyone understands the basics of "hit and not get hit". However, the hitting portion of it on Mayweather's part was all but non-existent. Even when Ali "rope-a-doped" Foreman during The Rumble in the Jungle, he was landing punches while coming off the ropes and eventually knocked Foreman out (in the eight round, IIRC).
 
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Even Tressel ran it up once in a while (just ask Northwestern). I think everyone understands the basics of "hit and not get hit". However, the hitting portion of it on Mayweather's part was all but non-existent. Even when Ali "rope-a-doped" Foreman during The Rumble in the Jungle, he was landing punches while coming off the ropes and eventually knocked Foreman out (in the eight round, IIRC).

Even Floyd ran it up once in a while (just ask Arturo Gatti). As far as the hitting portion, he threw and landed more. So if it was non existent, some of that blames lays at the feet of Manny. He wasn't himself. Floyd's fought the same way for years. Critics said he wouldn't be able to do that against Manny because he was going to pressure Floyd. Manny appeared to be afraid of getting countered and didn't have his normal punch output. During their last 5 fights, the only fight Manny threw less than 560 punches was a 6 round KO to JMM.

Floyd Manny
435/148 429/81

Floyd's Last 5: (opponents Thrown/Landed too)

Maidana2: 326/166 335/122

Maidana1: 426/230 858/221

Canelo: 505/232 526/117

Guererro: 476/195 581/113

Cotto: 687/179 506/105

Manny's Last 5:
Algieri: 669/229 469/108

Bradley 2: 563/198 627/141

Rios: 790/281 502/138

Marquez 4: 256/94 246/52 (ended early)

Bradley 1: 751/253 839/159

I get and completely understand why people don't like him in his personal life. But as a boxer, he is a master. His output was basically the same as always. Manny threw significantly less punches than he normally does, not because Floyd "ran," but because he gives different looks which makes fighters guess and makes them hesitant.
 
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