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Ex-Hurricanes QB Kelly arrested on drug charges

PLANT CITY, Fla. (AP) -Former Miami Hurricanes quarterback Kenny Kelly was arrested on three felony drug counts.

The 29-year-old Kelly turned himself into the Plant City Police Station on Wednesday. Police said he was charged with possession of marijuana and purchase and solicitation to deliver marijuana - all third-degree felonies.

Kelly, who led the Hurricanes to a Gator Bowl win over Georgia Tech in 1999, was held in the Hillsborough County jail. The charges stemmed from a five-month investigation resulting in dozens of arrests.

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Last time I saw Kenny Kelly I think was a game at GABP where he tore up his knee playing centerfield for the Reds. He was called up in 2005 during a stint when Austin Kearns was sent down, and Kelly wasn't in the big leagues for two weeks before tearing his meniscus on the edge of the warning track.
 
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Eligibility concerns may delay 7 UM recruits

CORAL GABLES — As many as seven freshmen from Miami's recruiting class may not be on hand when the Hurricanes report to school Thursday.

According to coach Randy Shannon, four incoming freshmen still have issues to resolve with the NCAA Clearinghouse and two other recruits already have enrolled in prep school after they were unable to qualify academically.

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Yahoo Throws Randy Shannon and Miami under the bus

Yahoo said:
Robert Marve found out this week he was never anything more than a mercenary, just a pair of swift legs with a strong arm brought to the University of Miami to win games. It?s how it is in most college football programs.
He once thought otherwise. It?s easy to get confused.
College football players are called ?student athletes? after all. The NCAA spends tens of millions on a public relations campaign that stresses the games are a tool for kind-hearted coaches to take ?kids? and mold them into ?men? who then go ?pro in something other than sports.?
Marve no doubt was told that by joining the Miami ?family? he?d have numerous ?father figures? on campus. He enrolled with high hopes.



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I am going to play devil's advocate, because I think this is one sided, and knowing and growing up around Miami football for a long time down here, I wouldn't entirely doubt Miami's allegation,

"Friday evening, after this column was originally posted, Miami softened its stance slightly and now will allow Marve to transfer on scholarship to any SEC school other than Florida, LSU and Tennessee. Miami alleges those schools were tampering with the player. The ACC and in-state ban stands, though."

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I think Dan Wetzel is reading too much into this before the entire story is unearthed. I think keeping the story up there is an attempt to have every recruit potentially read that without having all of the facts at play. Wetzel should be ashamed. I have heard among friends and Miami fans alike Marve's unhappiness with the two QB system. However, he should have put out on the playing field and the other QB Jacory Harris was at least as good or perhaps better than him by season's end. My own opinion is also that Harris seems to play with more pop and determination and Marve's head just wasn't into it come late in the season, almost like he didn't want to be there. Around that same time is when it seemed every Miami fan was wondering if he was going to transfer somewhere else. Then I heard rumors about academic issues regarding him being absent from class that cost him a chance to play in the Emerald Bowl, Miami QB Marve violates academic rules, won't play in Emerald Bowl - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats
Keep in mind, Miami also let several other players within the last week transfer without conditions. The players clearly were not getting enough playing time and really deserved the chance to play elsewhere.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1371297; said:
Berry -

I'm certainly no Miami apologist, but I think you're correct to point out there is undoubtedly more to the story.
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Miami certainly does have its problems, but the way Wetzel wrote this story made Marve sound like he was a saint and just a darling angel, he wasn't. Marve had the chance to go to Alabama at one point and was actually committed there orally.

And in case nobody knew, Marve had been a redshirt freshman last year after he got into an auto accident because his friend, a fellow Miami player that was allowed to transfer last week, fell asleep at the wheel.

Nobody is 100% entitled to the starting job or to playing time. Miami had the case of Brian Fortay, a QB who later transfered to Rutgers, who actually sued the then Coach Dennis Erickson because Erickson supposedly had told him he was going to be the starter. That's just plain insane.

I don't think it will hurt Miami's recruiting at the local level, because the pull is really strong for Miami/Ft. Lauderdale kids with Shannon there, but nationally it could have a very bad effect.

That's just plain wrong. I feel really sorry for Miami because the all the facts are not being allowed to come back, it's a plain rush to judgment by Wetzel and a lot of the rest of the national media.
 
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berryfan - while I understand a restriction on in-conference transfers (effectively the Big Ten has exactly that type of compact in place, it results in a loss of scholarship for the player, see Boren for example) there is no prohibition on such transfer.

As for precluding transfer to schools beyond the ACC, whether in state or out-of-state, there is no way to dress this up other than mean-spirited and vindictive. This will have a negative impact on Shannon's recruiting her on out in my opinion.
 
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sandgk;1371313; said:
berryfan - while I understand a restriction on in-conference transfers (effectively the Big Ten has exactly that type of compact in place, it results in a loss of scholarship for the player, see Boren for example) there is no prohibition on such transfer.

As for precluding transfer to schools beyond the ACC, whether in state or out-of-state, there is no way to dress this up other than mean-spirited and vindictive. This will have a negative impact on Shannon's recruiting her on out in my opinion.
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I don't know that it's mean-spirited and vindictive. What if Miami's tampering allegation is true? How would that be fair to Miami if they have have other schools telling players, "screw Miami, you'll get playing time with us." Don't tell me this doesn't happen in college football, because I have heard about this for years behind the scenes involving Miami players that wound up transferring.
 
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I just love this article here regarding Marve's father, Eugene Marve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

repeated below,

It has been suggested that the restriction may have been placed by the current institution, mainly because Eugene had made or attempted to make unspecified contact with Louisiana State University and University of Tennessee prior to his son being released from scholarship at Miami and without a permission-to-contact letter from University of Miami which, if it occurred, would be contact not permitted by the NCAA rules. If either of these institutions did more and actually knowingly communicated with Robert Marve or any player at any other institution, his parents or other legal guardians as to transfer opportunities or other related specifics, it would be a violation of NCAA rules, commonly called tampering. If you are a student-athlete, you are allowed to write to "any NCAA school saying that you?re interested in transferring, but the new coach must not discuss transfer opportunities with you unless he or she has received written permission from your current school." The NCAA is canonically the initial arbiter as to a determination of the existence of a violation of any of its rules.

Eugene Marve, in an article in the Miami Herald on December 30, 2008, objected to what in his opinion were unusual restrictions. Eugene Marve was quoted as blaming the restrictions on Miami Coach Randy Shannon and "his contempt for and arrogance toward my son, Robert."
 
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I certainly don't pretend to know the specifics here, but as a general matter, I would be somewhat surprised if coach of college X calls up a current player on college A's roster and says "Hey, why don't you transfer out of there and come here"

I won't say such a conversation never happens, but it would strike me as a lot of wasted breath for the coach of college X most times. What I mean to say is, in this case, I would more expect Marv to be calling around (prior to any seeking of a release, even) and asking coach of college X "Hey, do you have room for me?"

I am a tad unsettled that any school would prevent a kid from transferring to the school of his choice. I mean, we're talking about college, not professional athletes. That is to say, there's more to the discussion than simply "will we have to face this guy down the road" Now, that said, I'm not going to pretend that a guy like Marv is worried about his major particularly - and as compared to his professional prospects as a football player. In any case, unsettling as I find it, it just seems to me to be "bad business" I mean, suppose Marv ends up at Florida State. Miami has already determined that Marv's not "the guy" to get it done at Miami, so I wonder why they'd be particularly worried about him at Flast.

But, as I said above - I have to leave room for the fact that there is likely much more to the story - and the report above does appear quite one-sided and with an axe in hand stepping towards the grinding wheel.
 
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Good points.

I have to keep in mind that Florida let QB Brock Berlin go without issue and he went to Miami and later ended up beating Florida at the helm of the Miami offense.

For Miami's sake, I wish the facts would come out (apparently there is an appeal ongoing) and I figure within the next week we should hear something more definite.

The other thing at Miami is they load up way too much at certain skills positions, especially WR and LB and now it appears RB. However, I think Shannon has done a relatively good job getting WRs and LBs into the mix and he even has shuffled RBs around.

I just think it's unfortunate that Dan Wetzel is just playing one side of the story, that's just not good journalism. Kind of reminds me of that Dan Rather report on Bush and going AWOL that ended up being a joke.
 
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