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Michigan State RB Javon Ringer

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Buckskin86, Feb 20, 2004.

  1. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!

    Or is it possible that OSU just wouldn't wait for him to retake tests or whatever the problem was and decided they had enough scat backs with Wells commit?

    I'm not here to stir the pot, I (and many other spartans) just think that is a BS excuse.
  2. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!

    almost everything is between the tackles, and if it's clogged up he'll bounce outside. Our variety is either hitting the 1 or 3 hole. :biggrin:

    We were pitching out more but Iowa was killing us with negative yard carries when we did, and that pretty much got scrapped except for one pitch out to the right side (the good side of our OL) vs NU.
  3. Tlangs

    Tlangs Owner of the Tressel Jacket

    Keep in mind that during the recruiting of Ringer and M. Wells, we were still trying to clean up our image from the tail end of the Cooper years and the MoC situation. There was no way that we would take a chance on anyone with academic questions that year. If the Ringer was part of the class of 05 or 06, he would probably be in Scarlet and Grey.

    My time line may be off a bit but I believe that it was also the year that two players were dismissed from the team (gilford and irrazary). That could have also been part of the reasoning behind not taking a chance on a young man with questions about his academic standing.

    Why do MSU fans even care. You now have one of the best runningbacks in the history of the program due to OSU taking a pass.
  4. i am not the most qualified person to say this but heres some good posts to look at.
    #111-osugrad21 (one of our best posters) on ringer
    #151-86 on ringers weekly phone call from jt
    #174-86 again
    #260-article on where ringer standes (this is the quoted article)
    #294 ringers LOI
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    Let me first apologize for making you watch this offense.

    But if you weren't trying to stir the pot, you would've dropped it. The answers were pretty clear....he was a grades casualty that we would love to have in S&G. I personally appreciate every fantasy point he gets me. But he wasn't allowed in to OSU, despite Tressel's best efforts.
  6. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    And the year before, the 03 class had been a disaster of attrition...
    Mo Wells didn't get Javon's test score flagged.
    Wonderful. Fans can think whatever they please, but it's not very convincing if it's little more than conjecture
    Javon is a great kid, but he absolutely had his struggles in high school. Ringer was considerably larger than Mo Wells, so that weak speculation falls on its face immediately.
  7. JCOSU86

    JCOSU86 Go Bucks! Beat Wisconsin! (again) Staff Member

    Why OSU doesn't have Ringer:

    Article Quoted a few pages back

    There you have it.
  8. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Or you could just listen to (or argue with) Ringer himself:

    BuckeyeXtra - The Columbus Dispatch : Michigan State running back had designs on OSU

    Not sure what's debatable about that, unless you think he's lying.
  9. Fungo Squiggly

    Fungo Squiggly Mortal enemy of all things Bucky Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion '18 Keeper League Champ '18 BPCFFB II Champ

    1993 - Entered the game 9-0-1 against a 4-loss UM team - lost 28-0
    1995 - Entered the game 11-0. Gave up 313 yards to Tim Biakabutuka. Lost 31-23
    1996 - Entered the game 10-0. Led 9-0 at the half. Lost 13-9.
    1997 - Entered the game with one loss and a chance to ruin UM's MNC hopes. Choked on it AND secured Charles Woodson a Heisman. Lost 20-14

    OSU fans know pain against them. Might not be a different pain, but it hurts just as much.

    I guess, big picture, we both hate the stupid arrogant bastards, so all of this is kind of a silly debate. :biggrin:
  10. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!

  11. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    No, Ringer just flat out refuted your point that they didn't really want him. So again, is he lying?

    NONE of what he said there refuted the fact that OSU could not get Ringer through admissions, even with Tressel's personal pleadings (which he does in isolated cases with great success).

    It's too bad that his test score got flagged for alleged cheating (may have been a false positive, or the other person doing the copying), but it was a major speedbump in his recruitment and academic qualifications with regard to a stricter OSU policy those years.
  12. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Go Green!!! Go Bucks!!!

    agree to disagree then.
  13. i dont think you realize. osu wanted him, bad. he didnt meet academic standards for the university. he wasnt the first or the last that exceeded ncaa standards and qualified that jt has passed on...

    granted im not gonna say we havent had guys who are below the typical standards that weve taken...

    anything below the standard is usually a case by case basis... this case was rejected.
  14. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    I'm also thinking that this Spartan is an OK poster, he's been around before without causing trouble.

    He's much closer to somebody like HailToTSUN than a guy like txp135.

    And no, I'm not completely vouching for him. I want to see how he'll react to the backhanded compliment of being compared to a Vulvarine poster. :tongue2:
  15. back to javon. this issue has been discussed in depth in the 27 pages of this thread. see milis post or mine a few pages ago that cites posts in this thread.

    back to javon...

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