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My views on striking other people... Can they be reconciled?

I could go along with spanking a child if there was no anger involved by the parent and a loss of control. Most are so angry it's a release of frustration. You're justifying physical punishment because you're out of control at that time. You know that's not "right".
Just like you could justify hitting a woman. She slapped you so you can respond in kind. I have been slapped by women many times and I never felt the need to respond in kind.
 
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Smart ass quips aside, my previous post was completely sincere. If you have misgivings (whatever their reason) about spanking your child, then you shouldn't do it.

Why?

Couldn't it be the case that somebody who is willing to question their own beliefs is better equipped to administer that sort of punishment appropriately?
 
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... in the end, I think it comes down to the kid him or her self. Some kids need the extra oomph, some kids get the message with positive reinforcement. I would imagine it varies from kid to kid.
Right on.

Whenever I am congratulated on my daughter's accomplishments, I try to remember that things could have worked out a lot differently with another kid. We got lucky; other parents don't. It's too easy to feel like it's what you did, rather than what your kid did.
 
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Quick clarification... some of you claim to think its never ok to hit a women unless there is an immediate threat to yourself or someone else. I ask this to those who have professed that standard. Would you hold it against a father in this man's shoes for hitting this woman.
http://sotomayortv.com/dalishiasaltercharged11montholdsonsinjuries/

I view protecting a small child (and my children) to be entirely different from protecting myself. I'd do anything necessary to neutralize the threat to the child(ren).

However, if it's just me, I'm not hitting a woman. I would restrain or block her to the best of my ability to diffuse the situation, but I view the two scenarios very differently.
 
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Quick clarification... some of you claim to think its never ok to hit a women unless there is an immediate threat to yourself or someone else. I ask this to those who have professed that standard. Would you hold it against a father in this man's shoes for hitting this woman.
http://sotomayortv.com/dalishiasaltercharged11montholdsonsinjuries/

great mug shot / tattoo pic in that link

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I view protecting a small child (and my children) to be entirely different from protecting myself. I'd do anything necessary to neutralize the threat to the child(ren).

However, if it's just me, I'm not hitting a woman. I would restrain or block her to the best of my ability to diffuse the situation, but I view the two scenarios very differently.

but in that case he would no longer be protecting the kid, thats my point.. the damage had been done. striking that "woman" would simply be retaliating against someone hurting your child.
 
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I am closer than anyone else at the moment to agreeing with you, let me make my point ya goober

If I see (actually see) someone striking my child, I have the right to defend them no matter what.

In the story i quoted earlier, the female hurt the child, texted the father TELLING HIM she hurt the child, left the child outside on the door step and went back inside. that dad showed up after the incident was over and the mother was no longer an immediate risk. he went into the house to confront her about his obviously and admittedly abused infant. so not really self defense. i just want to know if the "I'd never hit a woman" crowd would feel the same after such an incident/would they blame another father who did beat her down for that?
 
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I am closer than anyone else at the moment to agreeing with you, let me make my point ya goober

In the story i quoted earlier, the female hurt the child, texted the father TELLING HIM she hurt the child, left the child outside on the door step and went back inside. that dad showed up after the incident was over and the mother was no longer an immediate risk. he went into the house to confront her about his obviously and admittedly abused infant. so not really self defense. i just want to know if the "I'd never hit a woman" crowd would feel the same after such an incident/would they blame another father who did beat her down for that?

As I said, if a woman is hitting me, I'm not crossing that line. I will restrain and/or do what I need to do to neutralize the threat, but I won't hit her back.

If a woman is hitting a child and especially my children, it's on. In that scenario you posted, I'd probably call the cops and ensure the child is safe from that moment onward.
 
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Adrian Peterson would be in a much better place legally if his other kid hadn't been hospitalized earlier under suspicious circumstances. Not sure how I feel about him at the moment; it's hard for me to be too critical about spanking, but AP seems to have taken things well beyond that.
 
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