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I'm going to be blunt about this. South Koreans are pussies and cowards, and they had better not be expecting the United States to throw half a million troops into the meat grinder that war will become.

If they want to keep their country the way it is, they're going to need to get out of the gym, put down their video game controllers, quit working on their Fast and the Furious cars and pick up a weapon and defend it. The most that they can count on from us will be a naval blockade and some air support.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1823311; said:
I'm going to be blunt about this. South Koreans are pussies and cowards, and they had better not be expecting the United States to throw half a million troops into the meat grinder that war will become.

If they want to keep their country the way it is, they're going to need to get out of the gym, put down their video game controllers, quit working on their Fast and the Furious cars and pick up a weapon and defend it. The most that they can count on from us will be a naval blockade and some air support.

I gotta believe that we would be there in a heartbeat to support the South Koreans. We have way too mzny vested interests in the region to allow the North to overrun them.
 
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buckeyebri;1823313; said:
I gotta believe that we would be there in a heartbeat to support the South Koreans. We have way too mzny vested interests in the region to allow the North to overrun them.

It would be better to have a unified peninsula, actually, as it would give us a stronger military position on china. China prefers a submissive, dependant, N Korea as a buffer to the US in S Korea. But, with China trying to claim they don,t really want to be Communist anymore, and becoming an economic force in the world, not to mention holding US debt in the billions at this point, it will be very difficult for them to continue to justify defending N Korea and their insane leadership dynasty. That is why I beam secret messages into Kim Jung Un's pointy little head at night. "kill all the things". "s Korea never respect you like you deserve" "be big man, flex muscles, wag missiles at silly americans"
 
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buckeyebri;1823313; said:
I gotta believe that we would be there in a heartbeat to support the South Koreans. We have way too mzny vested interests in the region to allow the North to overrun them.

Disagree. Even if there's the will (which in many quarters there is not for a variety of reasons) where are we going to pull the necessary manpower to repel what would probably be a million N. Koreans pouring across the parallel. No administration--Republican or Democratic--is going to throw a few token divisions into a meat grinder.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1823341; said:
Disagree. Even if there's the will (which in many quarters there is not for a variety of reasons) where are we going to pull the necessary manpower to repel what would probably be a million N. Koreans pouring across the parallel. No administration--Republican or Democratic--is going to throw a few token divisions into a meat grinder.

So what would happen then to our existing forces in the area? Don't we maintain installations in neighboring areas such as Okinawa to support S. Korea. Knowing the North has this ability and supposing we don't have the will to step in, what is stopping the North from making the move?
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1823341; said:
Disagree. Even if there's the will (which in many quarters there is not for a variety of reasons) where are we going to pull the necessary manpower to repel what would probably be a million N. Koreans pouring across the parallel. No administration--Republican or Democratic--is going to throw a few token divisions into a meat grinder.

No administration may want to, but the fact that we have 40,000 troops (and now a carrier group in the neighborhood), if a shooting war starts-we are involved. How could we possibly extract ourselves- we have a fifty year running commitment. This is the problem with having entangling agreements with half the countries around the globe.
 
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eightpointbuck;1823429; said:
No administration may want to, but the fact that we have 40,000 troops (and now a carrier group in the neighborhood), if a shooting war starts-we are involved. How could we possibly extract ourselves- we have a fifty year running commitment. This is the problem with having entangling agreements with half the countries around the globe.

Simple, let the frickin' North Koreans have it. They aren't going to move on Japan, which actually is a strategic ally. There's nothing of economic or scientific importance in S. Korea that our corporations haven't handed the Chinese over the last decade anyways. Really, I don't see sacrificing what might be up to 50K dead in the first year for a nation of ungrateful pussies who won't pick up a weapon to defend themselves.

If this were Japan, I would be thinking differently. Honestly, the South Koreans could use a generation or two of reeducation camps, starvation and building statues of dear leader. It might wipe the smug off their faces.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1823440; said:
Simple, let the frickin' North Koreans have it. They aren't going to move on Japan, which actually is a strategic ally. There's nothing of economic or scientific importance in S. Korea that our corporations haven't handed the Chinese over the last decade anyways. Really, I don't see sacrificing what might be up to 50K dead in the first year for a nation of ungrateful pussies who won't pick up a weapon to defend themselves.

If this were Japan, I would be thinking differently. Honestly, the South Koreans could use a generation or two of reeducation camps, starvation and building statues of dear leader. It might wipe the smug off their faces.


It is amazing how the younger generation over there is constantly attacking America, how soon they forget. Regardless of what goes down, my best to OCBF and OCB, stay safe. I have neighbors constantly rotating in and out of there and I sincerely hope its just the usual Kim family stupidity out of the north and nothing that can't be resolved peacefully.
 
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