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NCAA Coaches: Bribing Players

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DZ83CK said:
Nothing they are implementing will change anything in a meaningful way. The cheaters like Pitino and Miller will be able to get away with anything they want so long as they aren't being wiretapped - deny, deny, deny and you will eventually win.
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Oh, they recommend that coaches caught cheating should be banned for life. I would like to see how that would be played out in a courtroom. They also advocate very strict penalties for schools caught cheating. Not just a couple games but a year or two. The even mention Duke in their report and little Jimmy Boeheim and Rick amongst others.

This Committee is not disbanding but it is going to come up with more recommendations and it was mentioned that they might recommend making freshman ineligible. I would like to see how that plays out with the NBA.

I do not know why they think the NCAA can do anything when it took the FBI to discover the allegations that led to the committee being formed. It is just a waste of time IMO
 
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Oregon getting thrown into the mix now with reports that Bowen would have gotten a fortune to go there, which is why UL had to up the ante.

I also note that testimony under oath that Collin Sexton received cash, and Alabama denied there was any connection where one is now being testified in court to exist. It may be time to fire everyone in compliance at Alabama and replace them with people who have a shred of integrity.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
As names get thrown around today and the next couple weeks...

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Matta was truly a fantastic coach and PERSON and continues to be to this day. loved watching him coach my fav bball team. still kills me as a fan that we couldn't get him that 1 title....damn you joakim noah and co....
 
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OHSportsFan said:
Going to be funny when the NCAA pretends to care. These programs certainly do not and will continue humming along.
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It's logical.

Zero disincentive to stop doing something + massive incentive to do something = something being done

We can't reasonably expect coaches and players to walk away from huge sums of money (relative to each) just... because. No one does that, in any walk of life.

Wall Street doesn't behave without the fear of the SEC. People involved in college athletics aren't going to behave without a meaningful oversight and enforcement agency.
 
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DZ83CK said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...5000-while-at-alabama-had-monthly-salary/amp/

If Collin Sexton got $5K and a $1500/mo allowance, how much do the Bama football players get?
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I have no idea what, if anything Bama football players are getting, but this charge is about an agent, who was trying to lock up a client, paying a player correct? I don't see any indication that the payment had to do with who he played college basketball for or that the Bama staff had any idea this was going on.
 
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wigmon said:
I have no idea what, if anything Bama football players are getting, but this charge is about an agent, who was trying to lock up a client, paying a player correct? I don't see any indication that the payment had to do with who he played college basketball for or that the Bama staff had any idea this was going on.
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https://deadspin.com/brian-bowens-dad-describes-black-market-payments-for-to-1829538710
According to Bowen Sr., Dawkins told him that Arizona assistant coach Joe Pasternack offered $50,000; Oklahoma State assistant coach Lamont Evans offered $150,000 cash, $8,000 for a car and additional money to buy a house; Texas assistant coach Mike Morrell offered to “help me with housing”; and Creighton assistant coach Preston Murphy offered $100,000 and a “good job, a lucrative job.”
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Coaches know. They stick the assistants with the dirty work, but they know.
 
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wigmon said:
I have no idea what, if anything Bama football players are getting, but this charge is about an agent, who was trying to lock up a client, paying a player correct? I don't see any indication that the payment had to do with who he played college basketball for or that the Bama staff had any idea this was going on.
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Well there was a Bama basketball administrator who lost his job for being the go-between to help steer Sexton to an agent:

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2017/09/alabama_basketball_staffer_kob.html

But yes, I believe you have the gist of Bama's defense argument. 8D
 
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Apparently the truth is now coming out in the trail:

Ex-Louisville coaches accused of directly paying basketball recruits
https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...r-coaches-accused-paying-recruits/1522476002/
 
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LitlBuck said:
with the recruiting class that Oregon seems to be getting they must be doing something out there and I do not think it is the fresh air.
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Clearly Altman felt pressure from the negativity
BayBuck said:
Well there was a Bama basketball administrator who lost his job for being the go-between to help steer Sexton to an agent:

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2017/09/alabama_basketball_staffer_kob.html

But yes, I believe you have the gist of Bama's defense argument. 8D
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I am dying to hear you defend Bama here, wigmon. So the agent and coach just happened to really like each other, right?
 
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Brian Bowen's father says ex-Louisville assistant Kenny Johnson gave him $1,300

Text messages between former Louisville assistant coach Kenny Johnson and Brian Bowen Sr., introduced in court Tuesday, show the two planning to meet up in August 2017 in an exchange Bowen said resulted in a direct $1,300 payment.

It wasn't the first time the payment had been alleged, but it was a rare example of direct communication between a member of a coaching staff with a player or parent who had received money, being shown in the federal criminal trial involving bribes and other corruption in college basketball.

Tuesday was the second day Bowen had been questioned about payments he had received or been offered for his son Brian Bowen II to attend various colleges. Those offers were communicated to him by former runner Christian Dawkins, one of three defendants facing charges on felony wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

The charges stem from accusations that Dawkins, along with Adidas executive James Gatto and former Adidas consultant Merl Code, conspired to influence players to sign with Adidas-sponsored schools Kansas, Louisville, Miami and North Carolina State. All three defendants have pleaded not guilty.

In a text message on Aug. 23, 2017, Bowen Sr. asks Johnson if he wants to "get together to square up," and Johnson responded, "OK, call you later on." Bowen Sr. testified that Johnson came to his residence and he met him in the car, where the $1,300 was exchanged.

Bowen Sr. said Johnson had initially refused to give him money when the two met in June 2017, after Bowen Sr. said Dawkins had told him the coach was going to give him money. "[Johnson] was flabbergasted. He was shocked. He said he couldn't do that," Bowen Sr. said. "His wife would kill him."

Entire article: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-louisville-assistant-kenny-johnson-gave-1300
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Brian Bowen's father says ex-Louisville assistant Kenny Johnson gave him $1,300

Text messages between former Louisville assistant coach Kenny Johnson and Brian Bowen Sr., introduced in court Tuesday, show the two planning to meet up in August 2017 in an exchange Bowen said resulted in a direct $1,300 payment.

It wasn't the first time the payment had been alleged, but it was a rare example of direct communication between a member of a coaching staff with a player or parent who had received money, being shown in the federal criminal trial involving bribes and other corruption in college basketball.

Tuesday was the second day Bowen had been questioned about payments he had received or been offered for his son Brian Bowen II to attend various colleges. Those offers were communicated to him by former runner Christian Dawkins, one of three defendants facing charges on felony wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud.

The charges stem from accusations that Dawkins, along with Adidas executive James Gatto and former Adidas consultant Merl Code, conspired to influence players to sign with Adidas-sponsored schools Kansas, Louisville, Miami and North Carolina State. All three defendants have pleaded not guilty.

In a text message on Aug. 23, 2017, Bowen Sr. asks Johnson if he wants to "get together to square up," and Johnson responded, "OK, call you later on." Bowen Sr. testified that Johnson came to his residence and he met him in the car, where the $1,300 was exchanged.

Bowen Sr. said Johnson had initially refused to give him money when the two met in June 2017, after Bowen Sr. said Dawkins had told him the coach was going to give him money. "[Johnson] was flabbergasted. He was shocked. He said he couldn't do that," Bowen Sr. said. "His wife would kill him."

Entire article: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-louisville-assistant-kenny-johnson-gave-1300
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Given this young man's history, I'm not sure I regard his testimony or that of his pops as very credible.

I'd love to think this is some sort of indictment of Louisville or Oregon basketball, but this family is just too flaky to believe.
 
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