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NCAA Eligibility Requirements

GoofyBuckeye

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I've seen alot of people confused about what GPA and ACT/SAT scores will get you qualified for an athletic scholarship. Here is a link that should help.



the links to the left will provide with more info into recruiting rules, amatuer status, etc...



edit: link was dead--21
 
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With some of our current targets struggling to make the minimum qualifying scores, this thread will answer some of the questions floating around.

Goofy's link is dead but here is a good page for some answers including the D1 sliding scale for Core GPA and required SAT/ACT scores: NCAA
 
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An interesting perspective from Matt Hayes on APR and the recruiting shuffle following Clemson's Athletic Advisory Review Committee (AARC) refusal of two recruits - who were then accepted respectively at Notre Dame and North Carolina.

His bottom line? We need a level playing field.

(Perhaps that would also be a help to JT et al in their decision making).

It has been two years since the NCAA instituted academic reform initiatives, gave them a fancy name (APR, for academic progress rate) and sent everyone on their merry way with directives to reach specific goals but with no uniform plan to achieve them.
And this is what has become of it: The whole system is useless.

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The basic question is this: How can an athlete be accepted by Notre Dame, one of the nation's premier universities, and not by Clemson? This is the flaw in the process and the reason it has to change. If we have to have committees, they have to operate on a uniform premise set forth by the NCAA.
If a player isn't accepted at one institution, he shouldn't be able to hop from school to school until he finds one that will accept him. He should be in or he should be out.
 
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Matt Hayes struck out here.

1. There isn't uniformity in the non-athletics admissions process. I got into every school except for my safety school. After undergrad, I got waitlisted at my longshot-reach school and rejected at several places lower in the food chain.

2. The system as it is allows schools to adjust to their situations. If I'm in danger of having a low score, I'm going to be more conservative with who I let in than I would be if I had a high score. I might be more conservative if I have a lot of players leaving (transfer or NFL juniors) or if I've already taken a few risks.

3. Students might project better academically at one school than at another, even in defiance of rankings or academic reputation.
 
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This NCAA action will impact more than the *diploma mill* school that is supposedly the target of new rule.

May 1, 2007
N.C.A.A. Cracks Down on Prep Schools and Angers Some
By PETE THAMEL

The N.C.A.A. quietly passed legislation last week to continue its fight against prep schools that require minimal academic study. In perhaps its most significant move to deter diploma mills, the N.C.A.A. will limit high school students to one core course that would count toward college eligibility after a student?s four-year high school graduation date.

The decision will shut down a glaring N.C.A.A. loophole, one exploited by diploma mills: students avoided graduating high school to pad their grade point average in a fifth year. The N.C.A.A. also hopes the new policy will help eliminate schools that exist solely to qualify players for college scholarships.

cont'd...
 
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matcar;1128199; said:
You know, with TSUN being the "Harvard of the West" and all, it's amazing that someone could have a difficult time getting into CBUS but gets an offer from the Cesspool of the West.

I'm sure I could do some research myself, but with the wealth of wisdom on BP (and taking into account my laziness at the moment), I'll ask the question here.

How is it that we miss out on so many kids due to academics, only to see them end up at other B10 schools? One of the ones that really sticks in my mind is Javon Ringer. So, here's my question: What are the minimum standards for student athletes in academics according to the NCAA? And, are there B10 standards that are different? Then, does each school get to choose how far above the NCAA/B10 standards to place theirs? I'm just interested to see how these sets of standards compare. I'm ok with the Bucks having higher standards for their university. Just curious where we rank compared to other B10 schools on the minimums.
 
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bucksfan79;1128240; said:
I'm sure I could do some research myself, but with the wealth of wisdom on BP (and taking into account my laziness at the moment), I'll ask the question here.

How is it that we miss out on so many kids due to academics, only to see them end up at other B10 schools? One of the ones that really sticks in my mind is Javon Ringer. So, here's my question: What are the minimum standards for student athletes in academics according to the NCAA? And, are there B10 standards that are different? Then, does each school get to choose how far above the NCAA/B10 standards to place theirs? I'm just interested to see how these sets of standards compare. I'm ok with the Bucks having higher standards for their university. Just curious where we rank compared to other B10 schools on the minimums.

This is a really good question, and I'd love to hear the answer myself, but it's definitely deserving of its own thread.
 
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bucksfan79;1128240; said:
I'm sure I could do some research myself, but with the wealth of wisdom on BP (and taking into account my laziness at the moment), I'll ask the question here.

How is it that we miss out on so many kids due to academics, only to see them end up at other B10 schools? One of the ones that really sticks in my mind is Javon Ringer. So, here's my question: What are the minimum standards for student athletes in academics according to the NCAA? And, are there B10 standards that are different? Then, does each school get to choose how far above the NCAA/B10 standards to place theirs? I'm just interested to see how these sets of standards compare. I'm ok with the Bucks having higher standards for their university. Just curious where we rank compared to other B10 schools on the minimums.

Merged your question into this thread instead of the recruiting forum...

The NCAA minimums are now 14 core courses and a sliding scale of Core GPA and SAT/ACT score. Starting next year, the core courses rise to 16 for D-1.

After the NCAA clears a student-athlete, it is up to the individual school to admit him/her. With the new NCAA APR rules, schools are tightening down on entrance requirements and limiting "at risk" kids...however, most schools make a varying number of exceptions.

Once kids get to the school, there is a heavy academic assistance system in place to guide them.

Not sure if that answers all of your questions, but fire away if you have more.
 
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Grad - the only significant question you left hanging was where the rigors of admission for SA entry at Ohio State stack up against those for the other member institutions of the Big Ten.

It is worth clarifying for bucksfan79 that, due to APR, and the resulting change in SA recruiting, it is nearly impossible to state what schools are adopting freer entry and which are more close doored (and why).

Taking the last issued APR data might seem like a good read on what went on in the past - but that is also it's weakness, it is the past. The current APR data is really a moving average you see. So it gives a score computed from the progress rate to graduation from classes beginning with '03-04. Now, not to knock any particular group, but we know that there were more likely to be some SAs in the group that should have graduated in 03 and 04 who were academic casualties. They were in admitted to campus under the previous, Cooper, administration.

That said, one thing we can glean is that Ohio State became more selective after Tressel arrived, and certainly became more careful with SA recruiting early in Tressel's tenure.

The proof is in better classroom performance, the proof is in an improving APR - which is happening in the face of a high rate of early departure to the Professional Leagues.
Now, other schools do have higher APR scores from th latest data than does Ohio State. Some, like Northwestern, have certainly taken significant care to ensure a close match with the academic rigors on their campus - even if it means a weaker showing on the field. Northwestern's APR is also boosted by the realtively low rate of early departure for the Professional Leagues.

Then there are other schools that consistently show a lagging and problematic APR, the Spartans are close to that cusp being below the 925 cut-off, as is the University of Minnesota and, most surprisingly Purdue. It probably isn't an exaggeration to state that Ohio State has sent more SAs to the Pros, during the time years from which the APR data was culled, than all three Universities combined. So, in the case of those three is this an instance of taking athletes that wouldn't have worked out at other more stringent institutions? (Amongst which more stringent group you can now count Ohio State). Is it some other factor not accounted for?

Keep watching those APR scores, count the Juniors to the Pro Leagues. Between these two data points - I think you will discern the real trend in SA selection amongst the Big Ten schools.
 
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