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NCAA investigating Tressel's days at Y-State

Discussion in 'ESPN's 04-05 war against tOSU and Tressel' started by GoofyBuckeye, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. ScarletArrow

    ScarletArrow I'm wearing Gold Pants

    This is all conjecture on my part - but it would seem to me that this is merely part of Geiger "most thorough investigation in the history of the NCAA".

    Why not go back to where ESPN alleged the origin of JT's fall - at YSU - and use that as your starting point for your investigation?

    If ESPN wants to use JT's behavior during his time at YSU as a precendent and reasonable cause for his alleged behavior at OSU - an NCAA investigation that declares him 'not guilty' damns ESPN further by using their logic against themselves.
  2. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    I totally understand Clarity. I don't want to keep this issue going without some manuevering room either.

    I thought it was best to allow some people to know what is going on in some of the investigation but hopefully not having someone swoop in and use it against myself and BP.

    From what I have gathered and to agree with what Dihard said about putting together a puzzle, the NCAA is going to interview the former YSU assistants in order to try and put a case against Tressel together, not against OSU per say. Even if the Statute of Limitations has passed on YSU's violations, the NCAA can piece together a pattern of rules violations and use it in a case against Tressel and other coaches involved in any violations at Ohio State only. The only thing I am worried about is a possible small amount of booster payments to a handful of football players.

    Remember, the NCAA is it's own governing body which means they can do pretty much whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate federal or state anti-trust laws. Now if OSU, mainly Gieger, didn't have any knowledge of any of this then the University can only be hit with a small probation and not anything close to a death penalty. It's my opinion that Geiger doesn't know of any of this so I think OSU may only lose scholarships and get hit with a 2-5 year probationary period and allow postseason play. Again, this is only my opinion.

    As far as academic violations goes, I wouldn't worry at all about that.

    Understand that I am not trying to stir the pot, so to speak, nor am I trying to create panic. Like I said in the beginning, I just wanted to clue those of you into some of the things going on.
  3. DiHard

    DiHard Guest said it all...tosu will skate this b/c of ignorance.....however; lets just say there is a reason why jt has looked so haggard the past month....
  4. BuckeyeRob

    BuckeyeRob Yeah, whatever...

    Good god..... Why dont you use your head for something other than growing hair? All you have to do is look up the official findings of the NCAA regarding this particular case.
    I’m so sick and tired of buckeye fans and the media who fail to exercise the most basic of initiative in doing some basic research. Tressel was not involved in any way, shape or form. The booster you talk about was a freaking member of the board of trustee’s for the University.

    Man, for crying out loud! Know what the f*** you are talking about before you start spewing 3rd hand information!!

    Legally, the NCAA couldn’t use squat from his time at YSU unless there is a direct link between YSU and OhioState. There isn’t so who ever is telling you this crap doesn’t know a damn thing. What happened to YSU is not germane in any way to the investigation at OhioState!!!!
  5. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Rob, you a lawyer? Are you a former coach of Tressel? Do or have you ever participated in a booster payment to an football player at any university? Have you broken into the files at Youngstown State and read the un-released documents covering the NCAA investigation there? Are you associated with Monus or Isaacs of Youngsotwn? Have you broken into the NCAA files and read the un-released documents concerning the Y-State case? Are you a member of my family?

    if you answered no to any or all of these questions then you need to shut the hell up and shove a corkscrew straight into your head. You hearin me?

    I can understand if you are afraid of what might happen at OSU, ROB, but don't take out your petty temper tantrums on those in the loop.

    to clarify what went on at Y-State, the NCAA got tip that something was going on there. They came in and Y-State did it's own investigation finding no wrong doing and the NCAA was satisfied. Years later, the NCAA got tipped again to new evidence showing a lot of violations but the statute of limitations had passed. Y-State did it's own investigation again and found Monus had given money to Isaacs. Monus was the head of trustees at Y-State. Y-State and Tressel was found to have lack of institutional control by the NCAA but no penalty could be handed down.
  6. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    calm down spaz
  7. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Now that is ironic:slappy:
  8. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    and that has nothing to do with anything at osu. and the lack of institutional control was a result of monus being on the board of trustees, not anything that tressel did. in fact there are about 20 different times that issac is directly quoted as saying that he and monus made sure to hide the gifts from tressel, which still, has absolutely nothing to do with OSU.
  9. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    t-steele, if you read my earlier posts I said exactly that. The Y-State problems have nothing to do with Ohio State, but, it can have something to do with Tressel individualy
  10. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    The NCAA cannot hand out individual penalties to coaches, regardless of what they find. It doesnt matter what Tressel did at YSU, regardless of the fact that isaac stated he had no knowledge. There is nothing that can be done about it.
  11. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Sure, the NCAA can hand out penalties to coaches. They can bar them from ever coaching in D1-A or wherever again or give them a suspension.

    My point is, and I'm not being stupid about any of this, is that the NCAA is looking back at Y-State to find a pattern with Tressel, not Ohio State. They have every right, being it's own governing body, to investigate anything they want. I would think that most of you would find it refreshing that the NCAA is focusing more on Tressel than on Ohio State.

    Believe me people, I know more about what is going on than I am letting on in here. Bash me or do whatever you want. It still won't change the fact that this is all going on as we speak.
  12. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Hell bro keep posting...every person in here has the option of believing or discarding your posts. Personally, I like all the different angles from different sources.

    If you do get frustrated, just PM the stuff:biggrin:
  13. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    I figured some people would, OSUgrad, but unfortunately, there are those that cannot handle even a thought of wrong doing and choose to smack the speaker rather than listen with an open mind and go from there.
  14. IronBuckI

    IronBuckI Calmer than you are.

    Too many shmucks coming on boards to report shit, without being able to provide any credibility,i.e. my friends has a mother, type of reporting. What some don't seem to realize is that you're a very reliable source on alot of college football fronts. Keep bringing the info Goof.
  15. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I've known Goof a good long time, and I can say without hesitation, he's reliable. Further, when it comes to fantasy commissioners, there are few as qualified as Goofus.

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