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NCAA investigating Tressel's days at Y-State

Discussion in 'ESPN's 04-05 war against tOSU and Tressel' started by GoofyBuckeye, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Symantics suck...at least we got to the bottom of that
     
  2. As the old saying goes, "shit or get off the pot."

    A couple of posters have vouched that you have connections and know your stuff. And a couple of posters have poked holes in what you are posting. For me, the above quote is annoying.

    Just freakin come out and say what you know and how you know it. That would put in end to all the debating.

    Why not spill what you think you know? I mean, if you know it, then ultimately the NCAA will know it and then we will all know it. Are you trying to protect the person that shared the info with you? It's too late. You have shared some of the information(?) in a public forum. Sooner or later, if it is true there is top secret information buried in some mysterious YSU files, it will come to the surface. Make yourself either a martyr or a hero and share what you think you know.

    Otherwise, this thread is becoming monotonous.
     
  3. ohiobuck94

    ohiobuck94 Buckeye Beach Bum

    I'm confused!! :2004: This is all conjecture and has no substance. :!
     
  4. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    I have to agree with Happy.
    If you know more, share it, otherwise your just being a tease.
    But I have enjoyed your insight so far, so, other than teasing us, keep up the good work.
     
  5. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    personally.....i would have never started this thread.....for the obvious reasons....

    even though the info is correct....some things are better left unsaid....
     
  6. strohs

    strohs Go Bucks!

    I disagree.
    With the noted exception of a few posters, this thread was respectfully recieved and debated.
    If everyone here is scared to share what they know, then BP wouldnt be what it is.
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2004
  7. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

    The bright side is this is the job Urban Meyer wants. Even if Tressel were to get nailed the program would contiune to roll. Trss would join the list of fired coaches.
     
  8. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    I realize that Urban Meyer is a great coach, but thinking Tressel's firing would be good at all is blasphemy. Sure we would still have good recruits and good coaching, but after what Tressel has done for this program with limited personnel (01, 04), you've got to be joking to pull a line like that out of your butt.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2004
  9. stowfan

    stowfan Senior

    By no means do I hope that is the case. I have to agree with DiHard, I wish I never saw this thread. I don't think anything Tressel may have done at YSU
    is really going to impact tOSU.

    My problem, and it's just an opinion, I think we are in a position for a great run over the next 3 or 4 years. I think there may be another national title in there. I would hate for there to be an ongoing cloud over the program.

    Again I wish I never saw this thread.
     
  10. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Alright, just making sure this board doesn't turn into an Meyer-friendly bandwagon just in case.
     
  11. JXC

    JXC 17-2 since 2001

    See...the firing of a coach for reasons like this would hurt the program. It doesn't matter who your coach is, if the program is knocked down like that, it's going to bring it down a little or maybe a lot. I don't know Tressel...I have no clue what he knows and what he doesn't know. I do believe that Gieger and Tressel both feel as though they have nothing to fear. I just don't think anything is going to come of this. I think if there are any infractions, they are likely minor...if they were major then there would be more evidence. The most that is going to happen to tOSU is a slap on the wrist...people are already getting sick of it as a news story.
     
  12. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    This thread has gone sort of how I thought it would. Some people are for it, some aren't, some just want everything out in the open. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all. I guess I misjudged how people handle this a bit.

    in any event, it is opinion and second hand info from people I trust and have known my entire life and I've said that already. I can't just scan a document or two and put them on here. Even if I did, alot of people would still think it's fake.

    I'll just be quiet and wait for everything to unfold. I didn't want to just come out and say everything because this is such a delicate subject and I'm not about to have some whack job take this to some publication nor am I gonna put BP in the middle of any craziness....and I don't want to give other sites more fodder to poke fun at. As far as the NCAA goes, they know more than anyone so I don't care what they see...they already know.

    I hope to god that the NCAA turns a blind eye to this shit, I really do. Sorry if I caused any bad emotions but I said these things out of respect for my fellow Buckeyes who deserve to know some things.

    How about this, PM me if you want to continue the conversation. Otherwise, Clarity could delete this thread if he wants to.

    Tressel's getting investigated at Y-State and OSU and that's the biggest part of this investigation. I'll just keep it at that.
     
  13. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    I don't mind the rumors so much, as long as we are clearly labeling them as such. Goofy has been very good about saying this is rumor and second/third hand information. So there isn't really a problem. We all hear stuff we want to share.

    My personal opinion is that everything is OK with the investigation. Not that I like being investigated by the NCAA, again. But in the sense of, "let's get the whole MC incident (and by association Jim Tressel) behind us". The only way to do that is a thorough and honest look at our program by an outside party. Part of the reason I like Jim Tressel and Andy Geiger is my perception of their honesty and integrity. JT was brought in to correct many of the problems (perceived or real) with the program. I love him as a coach because I trust what he says and I trust that he is doing things the right way. If that is not the case, then we should know the truth. OSu deserves the best, and we should not shy away from the hard questions. I believe that JT and AG are quality people doing the best job possible within the constrains of the rules. If that is not the case, we should know about it and fix the problem ... period. The truth is never the problem, hiding from the truth almost always is.

    It's time to put this whole saga behind us ... hopefully this latest investigation will do just that.
     
  14. BuckeyeRob

    BuckeyeRob Yeah, whatever...

    Your “clarification” is wildly different than your original supposition. It is nothing more than a paraphrasing of what I posted. You are the one that needs to shove a cork screw up your arse pal!



    The infractions cited by the NCAA were that a former student athlete (singular form) received both cash and an automobile. Infractions facilitated by the individual you cite who was a member of the board of trustee’s for the University.

    The NCAA did not get “tipped” as you suggest. The information came to light during March of 1998 as a result of a prosecution case brought by the United States for jury tampering. The failure of a proper investigation as requested by the member institutions university president falls at the feet of the executive director of intercollegiate athletics. When asked why no in-depth review was conducted, the former director of athletics stated that he believed a disgruntled former employee had made the anonymous allegations to the NCAA. The head football coach agreed. (Jim Tressel)

    Frankly if you read between the lines Tressel wasn’t involved very deeply in the investigation and it was the AD that said he believed that a former employee was at root of the allegations. I see very, very little that exposes Tressel to any “cover up” as you seem to suggest. Most of what you assert is highly inaccurate.
     
  15. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Rob, you know nothing. You know what you read in a newspaper. 3yards posted the entire NCAA report on Y-State. I suggest reading it.

    You can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. The NCAA is interviewing people at Y-State as we speak. If you don't want to believe I really don't give a flying crap, but it doesn't change the fact that you don't know jack friggin shit, bud.
     

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